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Old 06-05-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Monroe's fame had little to do with her acting. The subway grate picture from "The Seven Year Itch" is still one of the most iconic photographs of that period. And it didn't hurt that the revered Joe DiMaggio, to whom she was briefly married, spent his entire life devoted to her, long after she died.

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The functional equivalent of being married to Joe DiMaggio today for an international audience would be for a young star to be married to someone like like Michael Jordan, Lewis Hamilton or Ronaldo
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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Most critics think that she had great comedic timing. She did play a "type" just like Steve Buscemi, Christopher Walken, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne. But her Bimbo routine was very different from Judy Holiday.
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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But how did she make her own place in Hollywood, if all she had going for her was being a pin up model and flirting with JFK, and bad acting?

I mean maybe it's just me, but I see her as a female Dolph Lundgren as in goodlooking, but really bad acting, but you don't see Dolph Lundgren being one of the biggest stars in the world.
She became Marilyn Monroe, a person who did not exist until Norma Jean Baker invented her.


The actors in Hollywood are not who they pretend to be. Prince was not who everyone thought. Rock Hudson. Bill Cosby. Even John Wayne, who hated horses and was allergic to them. Tony Curtis hated the parts they made him play.


If you think you are being given a glimpse into someone character by watching the parts they play in movies, you have a lot to learn.
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Old 06-05-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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Most critics think that she had great comedic timing. She did play a "type" just like Steve Buscemi, Christopher Walken, Humphrey Bogart, John Wayne. But her Bimbo routine was very different from Judy Holiday.
Steve Buscemi and Christopher Walken pretty much ARE as strange as the characters they portray. Bogart was acting roles (he and Bacall were not always "nice" people IRL).

I remember the broadcast of that "Happy Birthday" she did, and being sooo embarrassed for Jackie. Talk about a turd in a punchbowl moment.

Appearance-wise, Monroe's eyes were farther apart than normal, which gave an appearance of innocence that she played up. Some guys go gaga over that trait.
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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Yeah that's true, it's just a matter of taste for sure. I watched the Happy Birthday video and I didn't think it was that bad. Sure she sings it in a flirtatious way, but I didn't think she was aiming some sort of spite towards Jackie necessarily. I thought she was probably doing it for the cameras, more than for JFK specifically.
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Watch her performances in “Niagara,” “Bus Stop,” “The Misfits” and “The River of No Return.”

Monroe studied with Lee Strasberg who believed she had a unique talent. She wanted to do serious acting but in her day, women with her looks had little opportunity to do that.

Those were completely different times. It’s kind of ignorant, though, to judge a performer on only a few examples of their work done in the same genre when there is a variety in which to choose from.
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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That's true I only saw two of her movies, but I was went by those since I believe those two were considered to be her biggest hits unless I am mistaken. I thought lots of goodlooking women had the opportunity to do serious acting back then though. I mean look at Rita Hayworth, Joan Crawford, Lana Turner, Kim Novak, Eva Marie Saint, etc.
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Old 06-05-2018, 05:41 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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The functional equivalent of being married to Joe DiMaggio today for an international audience would be for a young star to be married to someone like like Michael Jordan, Lewis Hamilton or Ronaldo
We weren't talking about an international audience, though. I doubt that Michael Jordan is as well known as Joltin' Joe was, even for people who knew little about baseball and the World Series. I don't even know who those other two are.

And Monroe broke his heart.
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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That's true I only saw two of her movies, but I was went by those since I believe those two were considered to be her biggest hits unless I am mistaken. I thought lots of goodlooking women had the opportunity to do serious acting back then though. I mean look at Rita Hayworth, Joan Crawford, Lana Turner, Kim Novak, Eva Marie Saint, etc.
With the exception of perhaps Rita Hayworth, the other women were not presented in the same blonde bombshell category as Monroe.
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Old 06-05-2018, 06:17 PM
 
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I’m so confused here...


If you met an attractive woman on the street but found out she played a bimbo in a movie you would not be attracted to her based on a character she played? Weird.

Marilyn Monroe was a beautiful lady. Regardless of what her job is or who she pretended to be on screen.
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