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Old 07-26-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Iowa
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Dardis said he didn't like the way he was portrayed in the movie by Ned Beatty, especially the clothes he wore, lol. In the scene his secretary makes Woodstein wait for hours and hours, until the end of the afternoon when he tricks the secretary out of the office on a bogus errand, then goes into Dardis office. Dardis is surprised and reluctant to give him the documents. Woodstein talks him into it.

I think this scene was bogus. Here's what probably happened, Dardis/Gerstein's secret informer gave them all the skinny on Barker, including copies of photographs he had developed in a print shop in Miami, which had photos of letters from high ranking democrats at DNC HQ, dated to June 10, a week before the second break in. These two dummies, Barker & Sturgis, developed their spy film at a local print shop. But the printer didn't bust them, someone else knew about it and led Gerstein/Dardis to the print shop guy, who was questioned. This same informant also led them to Barker's bank account. There was a Miami Deep Throat which I never knew about. The Watergate burglary was planned in Key Biscane FL, which is covered well in Daniel Schorr's documentary.

Getting back to that scene about Dardis, knowing this was a big story and wanting to get back at Ken Dahlberg for trying to shoot him in WW2, after passing Barker's bank records on to the FBI, he decides which paper he wants to give it to. The Times wants it, but he favors the Washington Post. Who knows if the paper called him, or he called the paper, but Woodstein comes down to Miami where Dardis rolls out a red carpet for him, immediately Dardis ushers Woodward into his office, and shows him all the records on Barker, and probably tells him about Ken Dahlberg WW2 thing, then happily gives Woodward all the documents he wanted, and says to Bob, "go have some fun".

Edit, just wanted to add, Gerstein was also on Nixon's enemy list, not sure if he was added to the list before or after his investigation of Barker.

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Old 07-26-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Maybe read the book by Woodward and Bernstein to see where the movie deviated.
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Old 07-26-2018, 06:27 PM
 
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In Watergate, the money led to John Mitchell, Nixon's Attorney General, and from there to Nixon's personal lawyer, John Dean, who discussed it with Nixon and his 2 top advisors. They all devised a cover-up. And all, except Nixon, went to prison.
dean was WH counsel
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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dean was WH counsel
Yep. My mistake.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:47 PM
 
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Oh okay. So how come if the police do not have a warrant to search someone's banking information then why don't they just use Carl Bernstein's method and simply ask someone for it, all the time?
Because the police haven't made the info part of the public court record yet. Financial records are private, so it takes a warrant to get them, but once they're entered into evidence in court, they become public after the proceedings are concluded.

Sometimes. A judge has discretionary powers over any or all evidence, so financial records can be sealed from public disclosure. But in the right circumstances, a good reporter can get around the seal.

In this case, the financial records were in an evidence locker, I'm sure. But a reporter with a need to know could get permission to review them. A court clerk or other person could also point a reporter to the right direction in this.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Oh okay. So how come if the police do not have a warrant to search someone's banking information then why don't they just use Carl Bernstein's method and simply ask someone for it, all the time?
Watch some Law & Order . There the New York Supreme Court trial judge and the state Court of Appeals would exclude that evidence and everything subsequently found due to the illegal search. it is generally called the Exclusionary Rule. However every case is unique and that trial judge or appellate judging panel might allow such evidence to be used.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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But it wouldn't be an illegal search, if the cop asks for the evidence, and the person says yes and willfully hands it over. That's just asking, not searching.
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