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Old 08-02-2018, 08:34 AM
 
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Did they show Mark Cousins' The Story of Film: An Odyssey? I find it essential viewing.

I would think there are many youtube videos that show director techniques that would be useful.

20 Signature Shots and Techniques of the World’s Greatest Directors
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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My top 2 so far would be Cell 211 (2009), and Ed Wood (1994)

Ed Wood is a good movie on what not to do, but a great inspiration on filmmaking passion.

But which movies do you think should be shown?
John Waters' "Female Trouble" - To show that classics really can be made cheaply.



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Memento and Pulp Fiction (playing with time storytelling)
Include Kubrick's "The Killing".
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:13 AM
 
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The King's Speech


Shadow of a Doubt


Bram Stoker's Dracula


Metropolis
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Old 08-02-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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"Jaws".

The writing was not very good, and it certainly was not a perfect movie, imo, the pacing and building of suspense was very good, I thought.
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Old 08-02-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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Plus a lot of the filmmaking techniques used in Citizen Kane are not used as much anymore, and a lot of students probably want to learn more modern technigues I am guessing, such as cutting from scene to scene, instead of fading all the time, or shallow focus instead of deep focus, etc.
That's all the more reason to show it (or other movies such as The Night of the Hunter that use the same film techniques). Using the same "modern" techniques everyone else is using is a great way to insure that your movie looks exactly like everyone else's, which isn't something any filmmaker should want.
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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That's all the more reason to show it (or other movies such as The Night of the Hunter that use the same film techniques). Using the same "modern" techniques everyone else is using is a great way to insure that your movie looks exactly like everyone else's, which isn't something any filmmaker should want.
Yeah I know what you mean, it's good to be different, but I think a lot of filmmakers do want their movies to look like the modern fads. I mean for one thing, every student in the class is a huge Roger Deakins fan. I am too, but not to the extent that they are.

And they want want to get their movies to look like his if they can, but the problem with that is, is that everyone wants to their movies to look like Roger Deakins then. So I think a lot of people are attracted to what's the new trend a lot, not that it makes it the best.

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Any good film school is going to cover the classics with more modern stuff. And hopefully even some bad stuff. You can learn a lot from a bad movie.
That's why we were shown Limitless was because we were suppose to learn what not to do, or so I was told.
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Old 08-02-2018, 07:48 PM
 
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Stagecoach (1939)
In Cold Blood (1967)

And Potemkin, Citizen Kane, Hitchcock, Kubrick and others were studied in a film class I took a few years ago.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:57 AM
 
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If you're interested in structure and how to handle repetition to delineate it, would suggest "Vertigo" (binary), either "Groundhog Day" or "Rashomon" (variations, the latter more strictly), and either "The Lion King" or "Bolt" (ternary, the latter with brief intro and coda, the former more strictly).
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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Well... it's just that Citizen Kane is so well known. Everyone in my class had already seen it, so I thought it would be better to show lesser known gems maybe.

Plus a lot of the filmmaking techniques used in Citizen Kane are not used as much anymore, and a lot of students probably want to learn more modern technigues I am guessing, such as cutting from scene to scene, instead of fading all the time, or shallow focus instead of deep focus, etc.
Is this for a class that you are teaching or one that you already completed? You didn't specify that it had to be contemporary film or that the historical significance wasn't the focus. Otherwise, I would have added titles of silent films, as well as early films that combined animation with live action. Every Saturday night on PBS/channel 13, independent films and shorts are shown. Many of the shorts are made by recent film school graduates showcasing different techniques. You may want to check them out and watch them online on thirteen.org.
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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JFK by Oliver Stone.

I would also say Natural Born Killers, Pulp Fiction, but probably too violent.
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