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Old 08-04-2018, 01:20 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Is this Operation Finale film an Inglourious Basterds remake? Sure looks like one. I didn't care for Inglourious Basterds, and I have no desire to see Operation Finale. And how many more Nazi movies do we need? Why is Hollywood so obsessed with Nazis? For every one film we have about the Pacific Theater of WWII, we have like a hundred Nazi movies. And most of the ones about the Pacific Theater are not nearly as epic as a film such as Midway -- you'd think that according to Hollywood, WWII was 99% Europe and the Pacific was just a side show -- how insulting to most Americans.

Here's an idea, why not a new subject matter altogether? There are quite a few historical subjects which have never been made into major Hollywood films, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, Vlad the Impaler, Boudicca's rebellion against Rome, the attack on the USS Liberty, etc., so why not give the tired old Nazi thing a rest already? Nazi movies? More like not see movies, because I think we're all getting tired of this subject.
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Old 08-04-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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It's curious to me that you describe them as "Nazi movies." I think that most people would describe them as WW2 movies, or possibly Holocaust movies, depending on the specific subject.

For me, I find that the subject seems to be inexhaustible. There can be tons of movies, yet all different. The Great Escape is totally different from Schindler's List. Of course, one reason for them is that they were recent enough in memory to command a built-in audience, and also recent enough that fewer sets would be needed (so, cheaper).

I'd be happy to go see a movie about Boudica, but I think it would be a tough sell.

The real question, to me, is: Why are there so few movies about American history? The British are much better at this. Especially so few prior to the 20th century?
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Old 08-04-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Is this Operation Finale film an Inglourious Basterds remake? Sure looks like one. I didn't care for Inglourious Basterds, and I have no desire to see Operation Finale. And how many more Nazi movies do we need? Why is Hollywood so obsessed with Nazis? For every one film we have about the Pacific Theater of WWII, we have like a hundred Nazi movies. And most of the ones about the Pacific Theater are not nearly as epic as a film such as Midway -- you'd think that according to Hollywood, WWII was 99% Europe and the Pacific was just a side show -- how insulting to most Americans.
Nazis committed the Holocaust. Most importantly, we can draw a distinction between Nazis and Germans, and thus freely make Nazis as evil as we want without necessarily vilifying the common German. Heck, even modern Germans vilify Nazis.

There had been lots of Pacific-based movies in the past when the Japanese were more easily vilified. But the US did nuke the Japanese (questionable in many modern minds), and it's not so easy to separate "bad Japanese" from "noncombatant Japanese."

So the politics of making Nazis bad guys is much easier than the Japanese.

Notice, btw, that there are far fewer movies in which Italians are the enemies--same reasons appy.

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Here's an idea, why not a new subject matter altogether? There are quite a few historical subjects which have never been made into major Hollywood films, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, Vlad the Impaler, Boudicca's rebellion against Rome, the attack on the USS Liberty, etc., so why not give the tired old Nazi thing a rest already? Nazi movies? More like not see movies, because I think we're all getting tired of this subject.
Because none of those movies would have Americans in them, so would be less interesting to the general American audience.

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Old 08-04-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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The real question, to me, is: Why are there so few movies about American history? The British are much better at this. Especially so few prior to the 20th century?
Those are called "Westerns."
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Old 08-04-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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The subject is inexhaustible, I agree......we should never forget, even if it takes consistent reminding, the costs of Nazism.
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Old 08-04-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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No, they're preparing you for the next Reich.

The Nazis are making a comeback.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Get used to it. They're Murikas bestest friends now.
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Old 08-04-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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No, they're preparing you for the next Reich.

The Nazis are making a comeback.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

Get used to it. They're Murikas bestest friends now.
I'm wondering if that's not behind the OP.
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Old 08-04-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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28 million Russians were killed by the Nazi's. I guess that doesn't seem to matter so much. As for Inglorious Basterds, I suffered though maybe 1/2 hour of yet another propaganda piece. Yes, Jews got killed and were used in prison camps. I get it and have gotten it for the past 1593 reminders.
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Old 08-04-2018, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Is this Operation Finale film an Inglourious Basterds remake? Sure looks like one. I didn't care for Inglourious Basterds, and I have no desire to see Operation Finale. And how many more Nazi movies do we need? Why is Hollywood so obsessed with Nazis? For every one film we have about the Pacific Theater of WWII, we have like a hundred Nazi movies. And most of the ones about the Pacific Theater are not nearly as epic as a film such as Midway -- you'd think that according to Hollywood, WWII was 99% Europe and the Pacific was just a side show -- how insulting to most Americans.

Here's an idea, why not a new subject matter altogether? There are quite a few historical subjects which have never been made into major Hollywood films, such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, Vlad the Impaler, Boudicca's rebellion against Rome, the attack on the USS Liberty, etc., so why not give the tired old Nazi thing a rest already? Nazi movies? More like not see movies, because I think we're all getting tired of this subject.
Operation Finale is about Nazi Hunters and Israel hunting down Adolf Eichmann in Argentina. As to others Angelina Jolie recently produced a movie about an American Olympian who was a POW in Japan, Unbroken in 2014. If anyone where to take on the subject of Japanese committed atrocities I would expect the Asian film community to take the lead.
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Old 08-05-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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Americans need an enemy to feel superior. There are a lot of communist Russia/USSR movies too.
China is an import investor in Hollywood otherwise you would see a lot of evil Chinese movies too.
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