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Old 12-28-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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At least he is a real martial artist. His newer movies are not very good but I liked his old ones.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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So who are you? Are you like some special forces guy or something?

I'm just a cook.



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Old 12-28-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Yes, I think he IS a bad actor, but in his movie hey-day it just didn't matter. Thought I've never been a fan of his, I still like him better than Claude Van Damme.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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same character; different movie.


yup-bad actor.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Who knows?

Since his kind of movies don't interest me, I don't watch any of them.

As to the bad actor bit, how does one judge?

In acting class, it was basically the conclusion that one would be a bad actor if they couldn't get the audience to believe, if they themselves didn't believe, that they were the character they were playing.

So, step one and step two. With what little I know about Mr. Seagal, I would accept that he believes he is the character he is playing. Believes it one way or the other. The other being like what is said about Jack Nicholson, that he is always playing the same part..............himself.

So then there is step two, does the audience believe it? Well, by the audience here, perhaps not. But consider this, how long does the audience have to believe it? Perhaps only for two hours? If that is all it takes, for were movies meant to be looked at over and over, rewind a scene and look at it again and again, then if he pulls it off for two hours, has he not accomplished the task?

Of course, there is perhaps a step three.......would any audience believe him in another type of part than what he plays now?

Finally, keep in mind that in the movies, there are at least two means of the art. Consider what the late Trevor Howard once declared "we don't have the Method School of acting in England. We simply read the script, let it seep in, then go put on whiskers - and do it" (New York Times, January 8 1988). (from IMDB).

Of course, I have been trained about method acting where, basically, we find something about the character that we know personally and then try to expand that personal aspect of ourselves out into the part we are playing.

So it is as much an aspect to what method Mr. Seagal might use to how the audience sees this type or that type of actor.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:39 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Okay, maybe he's not the best actor but I'm entertained by the movies he's in. Five of them I like very much:

1. Above The Law
2. Under Seige
3. Under Seige 2
4. The Glimmer Man
5. Executive Decision
Out for Justice is my favorite. The bar clearing fight with the cue ball in the bar towel. Ouch! He had a one liner in a movie I can't remember the name of right now that has always been a favorite of mine. He was talking to the son of the bad guy and said..."If your father knew how stupid you were going to be, be would have traded you for a pet monkey". Lmao'd for a spell.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Endless Concert
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I really like his early movies - he's especially captivating in Above the Law. I remember seeing this in the theater and the crowd was so excited ! I never really thought if he could act or not because it's so impressive to see his marital arts, he's so intense and focused, besides real easy on the eyes !

Those that say he can't run, well he doesn't really have to run from anyone. I thought he ran just fine in Above the Law.
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Old 12-28-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Endless Concert
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Under Siege 2 on the train is a good one, too. I really like the scene when the bad guys are trying to figure out who is the person on the train taking out some of their men - then they read the passenger list and see the name Casey Rybeck and one of the guys said, he was my navy seal commander, he's the best there is. The main bad guy replies, I thought you were the best there is ? !!! Great scene !
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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I really like his early movies - he's especially captivating in Above the Law. I remember seeing this in the theater and the crowd was so excited ! I never really thought if he could act or not because it's so impressive to see his marital arts, he's so intense and focused, besides real easy on the eyes !

Those that say he can't run, well he doesn't really have to run from anyone. I thought he ran just fine in Above the Law.
I don't know if it was Seagal. the same production team that made Chuck Norris's best Code Of Silence. Above The Law and Under Siege are the only Seagal movies that I will watch all the way through. With Norris its Code of Silence and Lone Wolf McQuade.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:31 PM
 
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Yes, I think he IS a bad actor, but in his movie hey-day it just didn't matter. Thought I've never been a fan of his, I still like him better than Claude Van Damme.
Van Damme's manager said a few years ago that they faked his martial arts past to get him into the movies. Don't know if it's true.
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