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Old 06-02-2010, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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The new Star Trek movie is an alternate timeline or a parallel universe. Not sure which would be more appropriate someone needs to call Doc Brown and ask. The past was changed which had an impact of future events. Some were greatly changed, others only slightly so.

So any differences you notice between TOS, TNG, et al is a product of being in a different universe.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:09 AM
 
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Just watched a Bio on cable about Star Trek, starting with the original episodes.

One caught my attention. Spock's mom was telling Spock that he needed to help his father with what I recall was a blood transfusion. Spock must look at least 40 in that episode, by human standards.

In the recent movie that played in theaters, didn't Spock's mother die on the planet? And he's very young and youthful.

So would this be a missed detail? Intentional change of story?

Or are we to expect something like a following movie where his mother is somehow recovered?

A different timeline was created when the mad Romulan went back in time and destroyed Kirk' s dad. The destruction of the planet Vulcan changed everything.

As it stands now,

1. Nothing in the TV series exists as history.

or

2. The TV series still is history but in another timeline.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Earth
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In the recent movie that played in theaters, didn't Spock's mother die on the planet? And he's very young and youthful.

So would this be a missed detail? Intentional change of story?

Or are we to expect something like a following movie where his mother is somehow recovered?
As others have said, this is a new timeline. By going this route, it frees them up creatively to not be completely bound to the existing canon.

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I was surprised to see them work in Pike's history in the latest movie. I recall the episode where he was in a wheelchair, and chose to remain on a planet where he could continue in a state of restoration.
And you'll notice that he still wound up in a wheelchair. Seems like that was his destiny no mater what timeline, it was just a matter of how he'd wind up that way.

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I don't think Spock and Uhura ever had a thing in the original.
There were certain episodes in the original series where Uhura was clearly flirting with Spock. Of course, Spock being the emotionless being that he was, brushed it off. But I'm pretty sure that J.J Abrams took that and ran with it for the new movies. In this new timeline, we'll see a more emotional Spock, and one who by the looks of it isn't afraid to get emotionally attached. The death of his mother has created a Spock not completely like the original Spock.
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Matthews, NC
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And you'll notice that he still wound up in a wheelchair. Seems like that was his destiny no mater what timeline, it was just a matter of how he'd wind up that way.
A much better wheelchair, too. At least he doesn't have one beep for yes and two for no anymore. You'd think they would have something more advanced than that rig was.
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Old 06-05-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Maine
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To my mind, they have STILL never satiisfactorily explained the metamorphosis of the Klingons as we knew them from their original very Vulcanlike appearance to that of Worf et al.
I seem to remember this being an issue with an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise in its final season. But I only watched that show haphazardly, so I may be wrong.

In the original series, the Klingons were obviously stand-ins for the Soviets. Next Gen made them sort of Mongol Samurai.


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It was a lot more fun to be a nitpicker before all these "new time line" etc etc emerged lol - prequels, sequels, yada yada
Heh.

One of the things I really liked about the movie was that it did hit the "reset" button. The filmmakers can now do anything they want. Blank slate! I hope they take advantage of it. I really don't want to see a redone search for Spock or quest for whale. They went out of their way to hit the reset button. They had better take advantage of it.
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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I loved Scott Bakula in Quantum Leap, but I could never really get into Enterprise.
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Maine
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I loved Scott Bakula in Quantum Leap, but I could never really get into Enterprise.
I thought it started out promising, then became boring. But in the last season, it was actually getting really good. Then it got cancelled. Ah, well....
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Fort Wayne
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Just watched a Bio on cable about Star Trek, starting with the original episodes.

One caught my attention. Spock's mom was telling Spock that he needed to help his father with what I recall was a blood transfusion. Spock must look at least 40 in that episode, by human standards.

In the recent movie that played in theaters, didn't Spock's mother die on the planet? And he's very young and youthful.

So would this be a missed detail? Intentional change of story?

Or are we to expect something like a following movie where his mother is somehow recovered?
Yep...new Star Trek is re-telling the story.
Not very well,IMHO.
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