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Old 01-06-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: in the southwest
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You can play it - the argument is that you cannot convert it. And there seems to be precedents in other contexts that may support this argument.


HOWEVER, it seems to me that it's already been declared legal to make a cassette backup of a vinyl or CD, so it should stand that a digital copy (of any type) may be made.

I think the focus is going to turn towards where you store that file (shared folders), and whether or not it can be accessed by anyone but yourself.
Thanks for this clarification, Anchorless.
I guess we'll just see how it all shakes out.
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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FYI, there is an almost identical thread on the Tech forum, with some interesting stuff on it. Check it out.
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:57 AM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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I will check it out!

For the record, I cannot play it on my computer. I bought it. Had a subscription that allowed me to transfer it. Plus I bought it.

Now that the company no longer exists, I cannot play the music that I legally bought on my computer.

This can't be legal.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:37 AM
 
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I will check it out!

For the record, I cannot play it on my computer. I bought it. Had a subscription that allowed me to transfer it. Plus I bought it.

Now that the company no longer exists, I cannot play the music that I legally bought on my computer.

This can't be legal.
If the company that you paid for service went out of business, then it is not a matter of legality.
Other companies cannot be legally forced to allow you to play music that you bought from Urge. Why should they? You have the option of suing Urge - but I doubt that's worth what you paid for your MP3s.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:56 AM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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No other company is being forced to play my music. It is on my personal computer but I can no longer play it.

Something comes up that says I no longer have rights. When I get home, I'll write exactly what it says.
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:12 AM
 
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No other company is being forced to play my music. It is on my personal computer but I can no longer play it.

Something comes up that says I no longer have rights. When I get home, I'll write exactly what it says.
Your problem is that you bought a product from a company that went out of business. Since they are out of business, they can't give you the support you need to be able to play your MP3s. I've never heard of Urge, so I don't know any particulars. But you said that you didn't think that what is happening to you is legal. It probably is. When you buy something from a company that goes belly-up, there is not much recourse.
I don't know why Window Media Player won't play the MP3s, but if they can't because of some kind of encoding that Urge put on them, then they don't have to fix your problem.
Now were getting into techy stuff that I don't fully understand, though.
Unless Urge did something really weird to those MP3s they sold you, then there probably is a way (hopefully free) to get access to them.
Good luck.
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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Urge was part of MTV Media Networks.

It says it has a Media Usage Rights Acquisition and I don't have a subscription. Well, duh, they went out of business. What they did was transferred all their subscriptions to Rhapsody and I refused, but I BOUGHT those songs. I had a subscription for a year.

There has to be a way to play them, but I can't figure out how!
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:16 PM
 
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It's still not clear to me whether you paid to download those songs (ala iTunes), or if you simply subscribed to stream those songs.

What file format are they?
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:26 AM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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I paid for the subscription, $14.99 a month, and also paid to download each song that I purchased for 99 cents each. How would I find out what kind of file it is?

Okay. I found it. It's a "wma" file. Some say I have rights and others do not, but no mention of this when I was purchasing the songs. I am positive of this. I bought a lot of songs in one year.

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Old 01-30-2008, 07:10 AM
 
Location: England/Wales
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European Court Decides FileSharers Should Stay Anonymous
European file-sharers were given a huge legal boost today, as the European Court of Justice declared that EU law does not allow Internet Service Providers to be forced to reveal the personal details of people accused of file sharing.

Music industry rebuffed across Europe on file-sharing identifications | The Register

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