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Old 06-14-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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Yes, it does. Especially when the band being ripped off, Spirit, was a much more creative and talented group of musicians than Led Zeplin ever was.

"Led Zeppelin were sued by Michael Skidmore, administrator of the trust of the late Randy Wolfe (a.k.a. Randy California), who wrote a ghostly instrumental track called "Taurus" in 1968 for his band Spirit. Wolfe died in 1997. The instrumental cut he wrote, Skidmore claimed, is the original Medieval-sounding ascending scale heard in "Stairway," which Led Zeppelin released on its untitled 1971 record.

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Old 06-15-2016, 02:48 AM
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The one Zep song that I've never liked.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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YES that little tiny part of the beginning of STH is a ripoff of that one tiny part of Taurus.

But that is the ONLY similarity.

To try to make the claim that Stairway is a ripoff of Taurus is laughable.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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Ethically? Yes.

Legally? Yes.

Musically? No.

I used to be a snob who thought that music was somehow 'better' when performed by the writer(s). Happily, I have grown up and disabused myself of such puerile nonsense. The enjoyment of music is unrelated to who wrote it, or whether or not they have the legal rights to perform it.

Not that I ever listen to Stairway to Heaven (or anything else by Led Zeppelin). But the point holds.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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No. Ive been listening to music since the early 70s. Most songs remind me in some way of another song, and many have very similar if not almost identical riffs.
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Old 06-17-2016, 08:34 PM
 
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No. Ive been listening to music since the early 70s. Most songs remind me in some way of another song, and many have very similar if not almost identical riffs.
Yes... there are some "standard" riffs in blues and country music that are reworked, over and over again, by successive generations of musicians. No one can even recall who originally created the riffs.

The difference nowadays is that recordings can be compared, and if there's enough evidence of a rip-off, someone might be owed a huge amount of back-royalties. Cha-ching.
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Old 06-17-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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Yes, it does. Especially when the band being ripped off, Spirit, was a much more creative and talented group of musicians than Led Zeplin ever was.

"Led Zeppelin were sued by Michael Skidmore, administrator of the trust of the late Randy Wolfe (a.k.a. Randy California), who wrote a ghostly instrumental track called "Taurus" in 1968 for his band Spirit. Wolfe died in 1997. The instrumental cut he wrote, Skidmore claimed, is the original Medieval-sounding ascending scale heard in "Stairway," which Led Zeppelin released on its untitled 1971 record.

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Doesn't matter to me. If you know the true meaning of the song, you'll avoid listening to it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eBIhAqFtGo
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Old 06-18-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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I thought I'd better post the original, as it were.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFHLO_2_THg
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Old 06-18-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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Doesn't matter to me. If you know the true meaning of the song, you'll avoid listening to it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eBIhAqFtGo
Now that, that is interesting. About the listening to it; It's hard to stop YouTube dropping it in, quite often.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Considering they ripped off "Dazed & Confused" whole hog, not even bothering to retitle it, & Albert King's "The Hunter" & "Black Mountain Side" & god only knows how many others, they have 1: a pattern 2: an obligation to acknowledge.

To have opened for Spirit on many gigs, & even to have performed another one of Spirit's songs in concerts, which is a hell of a compliment from LZ, & now claim that they didn't listen to Spirit's first album until just recently is just laughable... plus they are multimillionaires & Spirit's survivors are just plugging along.

I am a fan of both groups & saw both the same amount of times late 60s - early 70s.

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