Why do people hate rap? Enough with the BS. (performers, original, talented)
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Rap to me is lazy music. It's like a pet rock that music promoters can sell like a dime a dozen. Many bands to choose from, not hardly a Mozart or a Stevie Wonder in the bunch. Give me Motown, Good ole rock&roll, good jazz, the classics, something that sounds good to the ears not angry with an attitude all the damn time. With rap I often hear melodies or parts of older songs mixed in, stealing parts of old songs and not too good at hiding it either, even though it was a common practice in song writing for ages but were able to change it thus hide it. However, I will say that there's been some hybrid rock-rap that I like such as the Gorillaz.
And you've shown time and time again that you'd rather make assumptions about me than have an adult conversation. When you're ready for the latter, let me know. In the meantime, I'll continue to swat you away like a gnat.
Actually, you didn't "swat" me at all. The reason why I'm "assuming" things is because you don't add any substance or proof to back up your childish claims. And because of that you just come off as ignorant.
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Originally Posted by artsyguy
People hate rap because it sounds terrible and has no talent
Tek...as a legendary singer named David Ruffin once sang..."you're like the weather running hot and cold". You said something great, then said something blatantly misguided. So I'm going praise you and call you out in the same posting.
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Originally Posted by Tek_Freek
I have tried listening to rap because I feel that I should make an effort to appreciate all forms of music, not just say I don't like it for no real reason. I have heard very little that interests me.
This is fine. And I'm all for this approach. The problem is that the majority of folks in here bashing rap have not done what you did. They made a blanket judgment based on some idiot thumping Juvenile's latest cut with the bass turned up out from his Cadillac Escalade on 24's at the stop light. That is what some of us have an issue with. If you actually tried it - meaning gave a number of different songs/artists a fair shot, and decided you just didn't care for the sound, that's great of you.
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Originally Posted by Tek_Freek
As for short-sightedness: You are exhibiting your own accusation by claiming that anyone who doesn't like rap hates it "just to hate it with no logical basis behind that." One of the interesting things about music: Logic isn't the driving force behind the love/hate for a piece of music.
It's emotion.
Here's where I call you out. I never said "anyone who doesn't like rap hates it.....". I said there are some short-sighted people who just hate rap with no defensible reason for the hate. As I stated above, hating it because some idiots aren't discreet with their music is what I'm talking about.
Actually, you didn't "swat" me at all. The reason why I'm "assuming" things is because you don't add any substance or proof to back up your childish claims. And because of that you just come off as ignorant.
Is that what my post says? Are you sure? Might want to read that again. I said, Country, Pop, and Soft Rock all use "boring, droning loops". Not the same as what you're implying I said.
Child, listen to the beat. Listen to the chorus. Are you telling me that's not a loop? If so, you need your hearing checked. BTW, that's borderline rap.
No...my definition of loop is "the same notes over and over". That's exactly what that song is doing. How is that any different than what you're complaining about now?
Look...bottom line, you hate rap "just because". You don't have a real logical reason for it and you can't defend your opinion properly. That's fine...but don't come up in here trying to pretend like you have a valid argument against rap. You don't. You just hate it to hate it. And likely because of one or two artists that you happened to hear in passing.
Heck, I hate the Beatles. Don't have a logical reason why. I just can't stand that group. I don't perpetrate about it; I freely admit I have no defensible reason. I just hate the music. John Lennon by himself I'm cool with, but all those songs as a group were downright terrible IMO.
Blanket generalization based on one or a few songs/artists.
Child?
Chili Peppers - There is NO LOOP in their music. Once again, you're misunderstanding what I/we are refferring to. "Give It Away" is live musicianship. There is NO pre-recorded sampled sequence loop in there. I'm VERY intimately familiar with this song... I play it in the band I'm working in presently. Rap does use loops, and they are droning because it's the same pre-recorded "bit" looping over and over while the guy says his rap thing over it. It does NOT matter what YOUR definition of a loop is... that's not a loop and that's not what I was talking about. All songs have a beat, chorus, repeated figures etc. or they wouldn't be songs... simply random notes! LOL
Bottom line - I don't hate rap "just because". I've very clearly stated in several posts the qualities of rap that cause me to hate the genre as others did. I've NOT come to feel this way overnight from just a few random tunes I overheard somewhere. I heard for 18 months straight, 8 freakin hours a day at my job! I hear it everywhere LMAO. I have very valid, solid reasons based on my experience as to why I hate it.
Why is it that you're not happy just to accept whatever reasons we give, unless we agree with you that there really is no reason at all?
Rap only sounds good if it is with rock music like Linkin Park.
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