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Old 09-08-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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A good Documentary on Hip Hop / Intellectual Property Rights / Sampling Culture:
(12:20 is a good part)
GOOD COPY BAD COPY

Apparently it takes years to even get a response (yes or no) and you must get two clearances for every sample, even if it's three notes, even if it's played backwards and slowed down, not to mention the money....which can be hundreds of thousands of dollars, 5,000 up front...per sample. Or something. It's complicated and you'd probably want to hire a lawyer or two or a firm of them to handle it for you.

When You Need Permission to Sample Others' Work - Free Legal Information - Nolo (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/article-30165.html - broken link)

So something like Paul's Boutique (a recognized hip hop masterpiece) just isn't be possible anymore.

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Old 09-08-2009, 04:51 PM
 
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Then we're doomed.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:02 PM
 
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It's sad isn't it?

I'm watching that doc again and it's worse than I remember.

Oh well, people can always pick up a guitar....and play folk music...
um, or something.
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Old 09-08-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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It's sad isn't it?

I'm watching that doc again and it's worse than I remember.

Oh well, people can always pick up a guitar....and play folk music...
um, or something.

I'll take some Glenn Campbell over this Soulja Boy garbage.
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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I'll take some Glenn Campbell over this Soulja Boy garbage.
I'd take just about anything over Soulja Boy.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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Maybe it takes some talent to rhyme a few words. But do any of these rappers show the kids that it cool and talented to play instruments? How much talent does it take to pick out an outfit that looks like something a 3 yr old would wear?
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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Every time I see the title of this thread, it seems to answer its own question. I have an idea: Instead of moaning about not being able to steal other people's music, why not compose something new? Oh, I forgot; that would take some musical ability.

CitizenKane2: Glenn Campbell made some great music, I agree!

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Old 09-09-2009, 11:13 PM
 
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Fort Worth huh?
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Every genre has an audience. Some people like rap, some people don't.

There doesn't have to an "why" - it's okay to just not like something.

I don't know why people have an issue with saying "I just don't like it" when it comes to rap music.

I don't like westerns. I don't like squash. I don't like water slides.

Have I seen every western? No. Have I tasted every dish with squash in it? No. Have I ridden every water slide in the world? No.
I don't have to keep trying it to validate my reasons for not liking them.

It's okay to just not like something.

The only thing that gets me is when people do come with reasons to justify why they don't like rap music, because 9 times out of 10 their reasons are either false or only apply to a small portion of rap music.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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Hearing it blasted at you from a car isn't enjoyable, either. I imagine if someone played Beethoven that loudly, the rap lovers would be shouting "Shut that crap up." For the most part, I find a lot of rap music to be repugnant.
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