Thoughts on John Lennon (videos, good, listen, Soul)
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Yes, let's leave Yoko alone. Those of us not living in a bubble know Yoko wasn't responsible for breaking up the Beatles. On a lighter note, I always got a kick out of this as a kid. The Spaghetti Incident at 1:25. The Beatles were great when they were mugging.
Saucywench you totally rock.
Happy Birthday, indeed, to John and Sean, who has turned out to be a credit to his father.
Someone else in the thread, I am so sorry not to name them, mentioned Lennon's range as a songwriter, and I so agree.
I also loved his singing voice.
Lennon was a flawed human being--just like me, and a lot of us.
Unlike me, he had true genius, a desire to get up there and belt out his words, and an in-your-face attitude.
But this guy who could be so abrasive could also be tender.
I enjoyed this song. I have seen Yoko speak and I respect how she has dealt with Lennon's legacy.
It was fun finding this thread at this time. I was going to stay home all night and play on the computer(3 day weekend). But, I received a spontaneous invitation. I'm just waiting on friend. So, I'll have to leave for a while. Everybody have fun tonight! I'll keep posting until my friend calls. SW
Today is the day of the penetrating gaze. Others born today-Jackson Browne, Cervantes, John Entwhistle(The Who), Camille Saint-Saens, Jaques Tati, Charles X, and Alla G. Massevitch a woman rocket scientist.
I saw a boat slowly cutting its way through a frozen river and at the same moment a friend said, "Love breaks the ice."
Last edited by saucywench; 10-09-2009 at 08:10 PM..
I watched one of many biopics about John Lennon and the Beatles--but it focused a lot more on Stu Sutcliffe, and the loss John felt when he died. I wonder how true that was, how often John really thought of him--outside that movie.
This book was the best source I ever found for info on the Beatles in general and John in particular. The author (in personal life as their sound engineer) was actually closer to Paul, but I found his writing both fascinating and objective.
And I actually learned new stories about the Beatles, things I had not known before about their innovations, instrumentation, and personal lives.
There is a wealth of material on Lennon, including his relationship with Stu Sutcliffe.
I'm sure most of us have some wild stories from our pasts. And I would imagine that rock stars, musicians, and other artists have many more. Most of know about John's "Lost Weekend" in LA. Although I know John is a flawed human, just like all of us, he had great ideals. He is my favorite musician of all time. An artist, a prophet, a lover of humanity. I've always loved John Lennon, and no matter what I've read, I thought how cool it would have been to hang out with him and his friends, and all the other musicians and people he knew. There was the Troubadour incident, or was it the Whiskey a Go Go? There were so many stories. John and Harry Nilsson heckling the Smothers Brothers and others. Throwing fem products on stage. I found it all hilarious when I was reading it back in the 70s and 80s. John and Nilsson thrown out of bars on the Sunset Strip. I've been there, and it's not like those bars are models of decorum. That bouncer had grapes. What a story to tell your kids. I'm sure John, as well as, Nilsson were highly amused. And Phil Spector firing off a gun in the sound booth. A few people witnessed that incident. I'm sure we don't doubt that it happened, right? But, John was being persecuted by the American govt. He was a subverssive in their eyes. They wanted him deported. He loved NYC, was worried about the posssibility of being deported, because he wanted to stay in America(NYC). John Lennon was not an out of control madman. Goes to show you cannot believe everything you read or hear. The govt. wanted him gone. Sad thing is if they had been successful he might still be alive. I was always ashamed that he was murdered in America, in NYC, by an American. Murdered in front of his wife at the entrance to his house. And don't believe the TV movies either. The Catcher in the Rye angle. Hooey!!! Makes a good movie idea though. I've read Catcher and Heart of Darkness, I've listened to AC/DC and Black Sabbath, and I don't go around assassinating people. That guy was a psycho who deserves to be locked up for the rest of his natural life. And, the American govt did not brainwash him into killing Lennon.
From Wiki. Lennon's order of deportation was overturned in 1975. In 1976, Lennon's US immigration status was finally resolved favourably, and he received his green card. Nixon's successor, Gerald Ford, showed little interest in continuing the battle. When Jimmy Carter was inaugurated as president on 19 January 1977, Lennon and Ono attended the Inaugural Ball.
Brainwashed by the govt.? Sounds like more bizarre book, or movie plots to me. If.........(if!) John's assassin was influenced, or brainwashed by anyone, or anything, it was by religion. Remember "more popular than Jesus," and "imagine no religion?" I'm sure there are many others too. John Lennon's murderer was a psycho, and a wing nut. This is just one of the many incidents that give "organized" religion a black eye. Great fodder for athiests, as well as, agnostics. Things have spun out of control. Too much rhetoric. Everything is black or white. No one has come together. It's probably best John is not around anymore. I think he would really be disappointed in humanity. Here is someone else's take on the "Lost Weekend."
Last movie I saw about Lennon was "The U.S. vs. John Lennon".
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