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Old 03-27-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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I am white and was listening to a Ray Parker Jr collection at the office. If a black co-worker heard what i was listening to would they think "he's listening to 'black music'" or is RPJ just considered mainstream AM MOR with just a touch of soul? In other words, is RPJ considered as culturally and spiritually black as Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Sly Stone?

Same for say Peaches and Herb's "Reunited" and "I Pledge My Love", are they as culturally black as Sly Stone, etc?
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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I bet it would depend on what age they were... if young then nope cause Sly music isn't hung up
as black music to us... whats spiritually black by the way since there then gotta be a spiritually white too...
never heard either term before.

only cultural black music I ever heard of was HipHop & Gospel but again maybe its generational...
I know I didn't help none because you're prolly talkin about an older crowd's views...

Jim
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:07 AM
 
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to give an example I am 48, white, and was listening to RPJ's "Let Me Go" which sounds a lot like like "If You Don't Know Me By Now" .

A black co-worker, 30, stopped in to drop something off and it looked as if she wanted to ask me "who's that?" because she made a face(looked as if she wondered who the artist was) while the song was playing.

She herself has a large black CD collection but not of artists like P&H or RPJ, but of more current artists
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:39 PM
 
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I am white and was listening to a Ray Parker Jr collection at the office. If a black co-worker heard what i was listening to would they think "he's listening to 'black music'" or is RPJ just considered mainstream AM MOR with just a touch of soul? In other words, is RPJ considered as culturally and spiritually black as Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Sly Stone?

Same for say Peaches and Herb's "Reunited" and "I Pledge My Love", are they as culturally black as Sly Stone, etc?
There is not a "spiritually black". If you're born black , you are black. There is no stereotypical formula to blackness. We are not monolithic...neither are white folk.

Now....if you wanna talk about the music he plays, Ray runs the spectrum. He started with Raydio (his group) in the late '70s. They were heavy R&B with some Funk tunes like "Hot Stuff" and "For Those that Like to Groove".

When Ray left Raydio and went solo, he went for the cross-over appeal and scored big with "The Other Woman". Some of his music started to reflect a POP sensibilty. "Ghost busters" is a testament to that. Ray has also shown himself to be a very good jazz guitarist. He's laid down some serious instrumentals over the years.


So....if people see you listening to RPJ (if they are knowledgable) they will simply ask...."what album?"
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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I bet it would depend on what age they were... if young then nope cause Sly music isn't hung up
as black music to us... whats spiritually black by the way since there then gotta be a spiritually white too...
never heard either term before.

only cultural black music I ever heard of was HipHop & Gospel but again maybe its generational...
I know I didn't help none because you're prolly talkin about an older crowd's views...

Jim
Hip Hop and Gospel??? That's all? How old are you?

Bruh.....What about the Blues?? Jazz??? Rag Time??? Even Rock & Roll had it's start with black music.
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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Music has no color.

As far as the 'what would my black co worker call the music I listen to?' question...I, personally, have no idea.
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:42 PM
 
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Hip Hop and Gospel??? That's all? How old are you?

Bruh.....What about the Blues?? Jazz??? Rag Time??? Even Rock & Roll had it's start with black music.
He's a teen ager ... so for their generation.. LOL

for them unless they are exposed to it through their parents or us .. unfortunately they dont have those genre's available to them ...

so for us older ones... there is the joy of exposing the young teens to these varieties of music ::soft laughter:::

i truly think he meant what is prevelant in their world today ...

rare
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:46 PM
 
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Yeah, cuz gospel is VERY prevalent in the youth culture today.
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:50 PM
 
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Yeah, cuz gospel is VERY prevalent in the youth culture today.
for the young people ... it is .... i think Hillsong has something to do with exposing Gospel... though it is not black... but it exposes kids to modern day gospel ... and there are times when they have black gospel singers as well in youth movies... and many schools have Gospel Choirs and they study their roots and influences... this is public schools i am talking about so such knowledge would be readily available to their world...

he is just telling us his reality and we shouldn't be antagonistic, sarcastic or cynical about teen agers sharing their experience.

rare
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Old 03-28-2010, 12:08 AM
 
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Gospel is a prevalent part of young people's lives today?....um, okay whatever you say.



P.S.
Sorry if my posts come off as cynical or angry or whatever...I take everything online as a joke and am smiling when I post sarcastic or 'edgy' comments ....that doesn't always translate well online...and I forget how serious some people can take things or how defensive some people are.

Not you ...just saying...in general.
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