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02-16-2007, 10:33 AM
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MI agility???
I have seen 2 of the dogs this woman supposedly trained and from what I can see I wouldn't give a thumbs up. Both myself and my husband were taken aback when the owner of the dogs showed us their training - we could not see any - not even "sit/stay".
I would certainly request credentials from this trainer before I left any dog there.
I was sorry to hear Jim is no longer doing agility at Aldos Acres. He gets very high marks in my book for his general training. I find him to be a great trainer of dogs and their owners!
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03-14-2007, 07:15 PM
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Dog Agility With Completely K9
As for your previous postings ... it disappoints me to read that anyone who claims to know such a great deal about training dogs would place responsibility of poorly mannered canines on the shoulders of ANY trainer. I would never do so ... dog training is only as good as the effort owners contribute on a daily basis. A reflection of a dog trainer's ability lies within his / her personal dogs. Those dogs that we live with and train on a daily basis. Once a student or dog leaves the classroom the responsibility lies in the hands of the owners. All a trainer can do is offer continued support to answer questions and offer advice. I gladly do so on a regular basis for many of my students.
As a trainer I would never and have never offered a guarantee. The only way that is possible is if the dog is my personal dog ... It is the responsibility of a good trainer to educate and instruct owners.
As for the world of the AKC competitions ... I HAVE competed in AKC events and have titles and ribbons if anyone would like to see them. There are also many other very reputable agility and canine sport venues in which I have competed, titled dogs, and have earned qualifying and placement scores. I am also an AKC Canine Good Citizen evaluator and have attended numerous training seminars (many hands on) with some well known trainers including Kay Lawrence, Pia Silvani, and others.
My dogs may not have high trial OTCH titles but as many of you know, competition and travel for such events can become costly and time consuming. It is not always within EVERY trainer's means. Ribbons and titles do not make a trainer - relationships with clients and canines do.
The AKC has recently polled and examined the possibility of including mixed breed dogs within their sport venues. I support this decision (if it comes to be) whole heartedly and would perhaps compete more within the club if it were offered to the many adopted dogs I train each year.
Again - please come to visit and meet me and my dogs in person. As for RED FLAGS ... be leery of any trainer who offers you a guarantee. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DOG. A good trainer will help you achieve whatever level you strive to attain.
- Danielle R. Johannemann CK9
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03-15-2007, 08:33 AM
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Dog agility In MB and MI
It seems to me that there are always those people who are quick to put down other peoples work without knowing the facts for them self. I find it quite distasteful and irresponsible for someone to criticize another persons training ability without actually having a dog trained by that person. If you have any knowledge about dogs and training them and think you can do better then you should have stepped up to the plate and taken on the job of training those 2 dogs. The credentials that you suggests that people look for from that trainer, she can provide you with. I have used her services on many occasions and have had much success with all the dogs that I have sent to her. There is an old saying in the dog training world and it goes like this, "There are no bad dogs just bad owners" when you send a dog to be trained it is the job of the owner of the dog to follow through with the training at home, you don't send your children to school and expect the teacher to be the only one responsible for your child's education you have to do homework and participate in their continued success and education.
Christina Long @KBK
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03-16-2007, 10:50 AM
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My dog and I have trained in agility with Danielle in Murrells Inlet...We are so happy with her! After 8 months of training we went to our first CPE agility trial. We are still training and still loving it! People need to know what they are talking about before being critical, but then, some people think they know it all.
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03-16-2007, 08:14 PM
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Agiltiy at A Dog's Way Inn
Hi All,
I am the co-owner of A Dog's Way Inn, in Murrells Inlet SC. In our 2 short years and starting on our 3rd we have made tremendous progress. We are eager to bring to the grand strand a variety of companion activities for people and their dogs. I personally love the agility venue, and so, in our strides of also being a wonderful boarding facility, park, day care, professional grooming we have taken on the task of bringing the grand strand a beautiful place to teach and learn Agility and more! Starting at a beginning level. We are so proud of our staff and what we have accomplished in such a short time and look forward to more in the future.
Our agility area is beautiful, well equipped (with more being added all the time. We have been certified as the first and only CPE site in SC, thus far.
I say Cudo's to us's who have worked so hard to finally get some Agility in our area, and also having it friendly enough that anyone can give it a whirl.
I mean it is such a blast!
So, I say please come and see what we have and help us become a club with all stages of competitiveness. We need it all.
Thank you Anne
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03-17-2007, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DanielleRJ
As for your previous postings ... it disappoints me to read that anyone who claims to know such a great deal about training dogs would place responsibility of poorly mannered canines on the shoulders of ANY trainer.
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Perhaps you need to re-read my posts - NO where in any post do I claim to know a great deal about training dogs.
And-I will not take back the remarks concerning the dogs that had spent 6 weeks in a MI facility, if indeed they were trained. I saw them the day AFTER their return, and yes, I agree, the owner is responsible for their dogs training. But I do believe that the "training" should last longer than 24 hours and further the owner should be involved in the training process. From what I was told these dogs were dropped off for training. Should that not have been the case, and let's assume the dog's owner was lying, perhaps they were only boarded? That would explain what I saw, dogs that did not have the basic sit/stay command.
Actually, the last time I saw them the owner was chasing them down the road - it was so sad to witness this reaction. Home for less than a day and already running off. But that only gets me started on my belief that no matter how well a dog is trained they need a safe, fenced in yard.....
Please avoid blowing my posts out of proportion. It's a shame you can't post a personal view on something without someone dragging their soapbox around.
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03-18-2007, 07:17 AM
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Please stay on topic and resolve personal issues using PMs.
Yac.
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03-20-2007, 09:23 AM
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I agree with Yac and the topic was finding a good trainer in MB and MI. Having used a dog's way inn and their trainer Danielle, I have been very satisfied with her and their facility. I suggest rather then just reading a post about someone, you venture out to the facility and go meet the staff and see what they have to offer. I think you would be pleasantly surprised at how much they do offer and the continued support they have from all of their staff. There are plenty of people who have personal views on how dogs should be trained and what to expect yet no first hand experience with the trainer they just make assumptions on what they think they know. I think that when you decide to critique a persons work without having used that person for yourself is rude and foolish, rather than accusing them of soap boxing you should have never made the comments you did to put them in the position of defending their training and for that matter their character and their business. I do not think that you would like someone to post their view about you having not met you but just on what someone else said about you. If you had a personal Issue with this trainer then you should do exactly what Yac said, do it in private PM's not on community forums, we come here to get good information on where to get what we are looking for and make our own judgments on whether we think it is good or not, not your personal view or opinions on things that you do not participate in personally.
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03-24-2007, 10:56 AM
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Comments vs Personal Views
You all have projected your personal views in each of your posts.
You all have made comments concerning your personal actions, observations, and ability or involvment in dog training.
I am happy to report that I do not need this fanatical type of response that this forum breeds. Actually, I'm a happy person with 2 wonderful, happy, well trained dogs (yes, all 3 of us were trained!)
I love that you are all obviously dog lovers - just a bit over the top for me.
Please enjoy yourselves, best wishes to you and your dogs.
Good luck to those of you in compitition.
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09-01-2007, 02:38 PM
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What is your location? When can I visit?
I would appreciate knowing where and when you are available for a visit to see your dog trainjing. I discovered the two listings of your training sessions at MI Community Center in October and January. Is it permissabld for a person who is not registered to make a short visit as an observer? Some years ago I worked with a trainer who helped me learn how to obedience train my German Shepherd (a thoroughbred from the line of Rin-Tin-Tin), a strikingly beautiful black and tan. Unfortunately, I had to remove him from the family environmnet, for a variety of reasons.
It would be easier to email a response if you don't mind, but if you elect to post it, that will work fine, too.
I can be reached at rjohannemann@sc.rr.com (the name should be easy for you to remember!)
Sincerely, Robert W. Johannemann
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