01-28-2008, 09:42 PM
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My family is considering relocating from Madison, WI to the Nashville area. We love our life in Madison but we have a nice job opportunity in Murfreesboro.
I’ve read posts on this site and I appreciate all the thoughtful comments. I’m looking for insight into the “feel” of communities around Nashville. For comparison, right now we live in a very modest 60-year-old house, about 10 minutes from downtown Madison. We can walk to school, the public library, bakery, coffee shop, pharmacy. We’re a block from a “rails to trails” bike path, which allows a safe 15 minute ride to downtown Madison. We have lots of locally-owned (not chain) restaurants. We love the summer farmer’s market and the neighborhood pool. We have a municipal (read: cheap!) golf course a block from our house. Our neighbors have a wide variety of jobs…pastor, teacher, professor, state employee, dispatcher for a cab company, Peace Corps returnee. Our nhood has a Catholic church, Lutheran church, Baptist church and an active Jewish community. I have keys to most of my neighbors’ houses. We shovel snow for each other, and watch each other’s pets and kids.
We always hear that Madison area public schools are some of the best in the country…they’d better be, because our property taxes are crazy high!
My daughter’s school has a super-involved parent community. About 50% of the kids are low-income, and the school is racially diverse. The teachers have a lot of experience addressing the needs of a diverse population. Living in a good school district is a top priority for us.
So, that’s where we come from. Right now we’re targeting to spend 200-300K on a house. Lower, of course, is better!
Any suggestions out there for a community, neighborhood, or sub-division with a great day-to-day quality of life, within a reasonable (half hour?) commute to Murfreesboro?
We’re looking forward to learning about all there is to love about the Nashville area. If you've made it to the bottom of this lengthy post, thanks!
01-29-2008, 12:33 AM
Location: Franklin, Tennessee
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Murfreesboro is experience massive growth right now, in fact it is one of the fastest growing cities in the state. In your price range you will have some nice options for homes in Murfreesboro...newer if not new construction. You can get a 2500 SF home, possibly all brick with 4 bedrooms for under $300,000. There are several great communities to choose from as well. Murfreesboro has all the conveniences for shopping, medical and such...schools are reputable (Rutherford County) as well.
01-29-2008, 06:58 AM
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Hi, I was born and raised in Madison, and I am also considering a move to Nashville.
What part of Madison do you live? Near Nakoma?
Our initial research is that there are relatively few areas quite like the many great neighborhoods in Madison that do a good job of mixing local business and nice homes. The ones in Nashville we have found (we have not looked at anything out of the city) are Hillsboro Village and sections of East Nashville. (more like University Heights and Willy Street, respectively.) I do think both areas have a few homes closish to your price range, but in general they are more expensive. Other nice areas are Cherokee/Richland and Green Hills, but again more expensive (more like Shorewood or far west).
Based on posts I have seen here, there are lots of outlying nice communities with good schools and affordable homes, but they miss that nice mix of non-chain business and diverse homeowners.
good luck
01-29-2008, 08:20 AM
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neighborhood advice: Nashville/Mboro area
nbourbaki,
Good guess! We live in Westmorland (by Glenway golf course), and our school is in Nakoma (Thoreau). Are you still in Madison?
I'm starting to think Nashville proper is not an option for us because of the long commute to M'boro. (is that right?) Originally we were leaning toward Franklin...it sounds like it might be like the far west side of Madison. That wouldn't be our first choice, but our research isn't revealing nhoods like ours (hence the post for help).
01-29-2008, 10:25 AM
Location: Brentwood, TN
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Oh...Madison...I love that town! I understand what you describe having experienced its charm. It's a great place. You're correct in that it will be hard to duplicate that feel here, but parts of Franklin might offer some of the things you are seeking. Actually, it's a bit of a drive the opposite way you need to go, but Westhaven is a community in Franklin that is very neighbor friendly. It has every amenity you would imagine (walking trails, fishing ponds, golf course, bank and a few other local businesses within it's gates, a spectacular clubhouse with a movie theater and rooms you can use for meetings, recreation, etc., a couple of really nice pools, etc. However, prices there are quite a bit more than you had mentioned you want to spend. The lowest price I saw in there was $389,000. The historic part of Franklin might get close to what you describe also, but again, prices are steep there as well. If you can wait...Carothers Crossing in Nolensville might offer a few better price options and will have the same kind of feel as Westhaven.
01-29-2008, 04:15 PM
Location: Blackwater Park
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Murfreesboro sounds like the exact opposite of Madison, WI.
01-29-2008, 07:03 PM
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Ah, Mike in TN, I laughed out loud at your post. I've seen some of your other posts...glad you're chiming in, even if it's not what I was hoping to hear.
And I didn't even list the things that I already KNOW are opposite in Mboro!
Schools are very important to us, but they're hard to evaluate from a distance. Frankly, from the data we can get online the schools in Franklin and Mboro score much better than our school in Madison...and we like our school!
So to you and the other folks who know the area...Given your impression of the Madison/Mboro divide, are there areas between Mboro and maybe Franklin that approximate the following?
--people who live w/in their means...maybe even below (!)
--pool, library, public green space in the general area
--place where you get to know your neighbors
--house where you can sit outside & not hear a lot of traffic
--open-minded people w/ diverse jobs, backgrounds
--single people, families, elderly people
--places we can bike to if we want
01-29-2008, 08:40 PM
Location: Franklin, Tennessee
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You might look at Nolensville, which is located between the two...possibly the Triune area, but I'm not sure you'll find the mix you're looking for...
01-30-2008, 03:45 PM
Location: Blackwater Park
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badgerfam
Ah, Mike in TN, I laughed out loud at your post. I've seen some of your other posts...glad you're chiming in, even if it's not what I was hoping to hear.
And I didn't even list the things that I already KNOW are opposite in Mboro!
For some reason, I often seem to come off negative in my posts. I'm a pretty laid back guy, so my apologies to you and anyone else if I seem like a prick sometimes. I just like to be honest about how I feel about things.
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Schools are very important to us, but they're hard to evaluate from a distance. Frankly, from the data we can get online the schools in Franklin and Mboro score much better than our school in Madison...and we like our school!
For TN, Rutherford County and Williamson County have fine schools. I lived in the upper midwest for 4 years, and education is generally more important there than it is here.
You really can only analyze so much from test scores. If you were looking at TCAP scores, keep in mind that TN was called out recently for having ridiculously easy tests and even then the passing rate wasn't anything to be bragging about. There are extremely bright kids here that go on to do wonderful things in life; but I honestly feel that a higher priority is placed on education in the midwest, as opposed to the south. It's simply part of the culture.
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--pool, library, public green space in the general area
M'boro has at least 3 public pools that I know of (SportsCom, YMCA, Patterson Park), and maybe more. Some subdivisions might have some as well, but I'm too riff-raff to be in those areas.
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--place where you get to know your neighbors
That's hit-and-miss in M'boro. I bet some of the historic areas near the square are like this. Some of the other mass-produced subdivisions - probably not so much.
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--house where you can sit outside & not hear a lot of traffic
Plenty of those in the 'boro.
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--open-minded people w/ diverse jobs, backgrounds
Being a college town, M'boro is probably fairly progressive for a southern town. It is quite likely though that you'll meet people and one of the first things they ask you is "what chruch do you attend?"
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--places we can bike to if we want
West Nashville, and Franklin would be better for this than Murfreesboro. Murfreesboro is not very condusive to anything pedestrian related. There is a short greenway (4.5 miles one way) that is sufficient, but other than that and a few other streets, is usually all about riding on the shoulders. Riding through town can be done, but I wouldn't recommend it.
01-30-2008, 07:44 PM
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Thanks so much for your comments. They're very helpful—I appreciate candor. I was becoming a little suspicious about the test scores...school after school in Franklin and Mboro have scores of 100% for so many subjects. Definitely calls into question the rigor of the tests.
I guess my last question would be: are there any schools to AVOID in Mboro or the eastern side of Franklin (or anywhere in between)? My husband and I are coming down next weekend to look around. We’re hoping to get in to a few schools, and since time is limited we’d like to focus on the best. Our housing will be dictated by school location.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)