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Old 08-06-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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The pair of Orioles returned...just in time for blackberries and tomatoes.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:35 AM
 
Location: N of citrus, S of decent corn
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We have had a happy accident in our yard this year.

We have a flowerbed next to the house, into which runs the drain pipe from our AC. I think it was intended as a passive watering system for the bed, but either the coldness or the amount of water, kept killing the plants.

DH extended the pipe and placed a big dog bowl to collect the water. We were thinking of our dogs when we put it there, but it is the birds who use it. All summer we’ve enjoyed the birds drinking and bathing in this water. I gave up on bird feeders as too messy and I’m unconvinced they are good for the birds, but I do try to have wildlife friendly plants and keep a birdbath full. This accidental bird bath has been the best addition to my yard yet.
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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So, the bear came through our yard again last evening. I was in the backyard pulling weeds. Bear suddenly shows up, about 15 feet from where I'm working, between me and the house.


OK, I've led a sheltered life, but I have never been so frightened. I stood up. Bear sees me and stops walking. I look around and think about what I should do. I take a few steps toward the porch. Bear takes a few steps in the direction he was originally going. I completely loose it, turn my back on the bear and run, all the while imagining him chasing me and clawing me down. But I do make it up the porch steps. When I turn around, the bear is carrying on towards the brook and then up into the woods.

What should I have done? Started talking and continued to face the bear, while moving toward the porch. Hopefully if there is a next time, this is what I will do.


While this was happening, I understood there was no reason for the bear to actually be aggressive with me. (At least no reason I knew of...) But my instincts just completely won out over any ability I had to think and then do the correct, reasonable thing. (Although I know that running is wrong, it sure as shooting strikes me as reasonable;-)


After my fear subsided, I again just felt so sad for this bear.


Primarily, I share this story because the respect and fear I have felt in the past when I have watched this bear from our kitchen window was amplified to such an extent that it completely engulfed me when I saw him between me and that kitchen window.


I hope I react more appropriately next time.

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Old 08-24-2018, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Amelia View
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Oh wow what an experience. I'm sure that in your shoes my instinct would have been to flee, too. Probably not the best choice. However, given that the bear knows you despite the fact that you've never met face-to-face before, he/she obviously didn't consider you a threat in his/her very familiar territory, so to see you running didn't change the bear's state of mind and put him/her on alert. If this encounter had taken place elsewhere, say somewhere out in the woods where the bear hadn't seen you before, maybe it would have been different - or maybe the same, who knows.

I am presuming a black bear? From what I know about them, generally they prefer to ignore us if they don't feel threatened in any way, are not stressed because there is ample food and they don't have to fight for it, don't feel trapped because their route isn't impeded, don't have to protect cubs. Humans aren't on a bear's menu, so that's never the reason for a bear attack. So, what you were thinking is correct - no reason for aggression.

My guess is that the bear sensed respect in your fear and didn't feel any threat even though you were running. Chances are you could have just stood there and he/she would have just kept on going. Ha - but not a chance to take!

What to do if there's a next time? He/she knew you were there before you were aware, thus you didn't startle the bear. So I would remove myself just as you did. You showed nonaggressive respect and he/she responded likewise.

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So, the bear came through our yard again last evening. I was in the backyard pulling weeds. Bear suddenly shows up, about 15 feet from where I'm working, between me and the house.


OK, I've led a sheltered life, but I have never been so frightened. I stood up. Bear sees me and stops walking. I look around and think about what I should do. I take a few steps toward the porch. Bear takes a few steps in the direction he was originally going. I completely loose it, turn my back on the bear and run, all the while imagining him chasing me and clawing me down. But I do make it up the porch steps. When I turn around, the bear is carrying on towards the brook and then up into the woods.

What should I have done? Started talking and continued to face the bear, while moving toward the porch. Hopefully if there is a next time, this is what I will do.


While this was happening, I understood there was no reason for the bear to actually be aggressive with me. (At least no reason I knew of...) But my instincts just completely won out over any ability I had to think and then do the correct, reasonable thing. (Although I know that running is wrong, it sure as shooting strikes me as reasonable;-)


After my fear subsided, I again just felt so sad for this bear.


Primarily, I share this story because the respect and fear I have felt in the past when I have watched this bear from our kitchen window was amplified to such an extent that it completely engulfed me when I saw him between me and that kitchen window.


I hope I react more appropriately next time.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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So, the bear came through our yard again last evening. I was in the backyard pulling weeds. Bear suddenly shows up, about 15 feet from where I'm working, between me and the house.


OK, I've led a sheltered life, but I have never been so frightened. I stood up. Bear sees me and stops walking. I look around and think about what I should do. I take a few steps toward the porch. Bear takes a few steps in the direction he was originally going. I completely loose it, turn my back on the bear and run, all the while imagining him chasing me and clawing me down. But I do make it up the porch steps. When I turn around, the bear is carrying on towards the brook and then up into the woods.

What should I have done? Started talking and continued to face the bear, while moving toward the porch. Hopefully if there is a next time, this is what I will do.


While this was happening, I understood there was no reason for the bear to actually be aggressive with me. (At least no reason I knew of...) But my instincts just completely won out over any ability I had to think and then do the correct, reasonable thing. (Although I know that running is wrong, it sure as shooting strikes me as reasonable;-)


After my fear subsided, I again just felt so sad for this bear.


Primarily, I share this story because the respect and fear I have felt in the past when I have watched this bear from our kitchen window was amplified to such an extent that it completely engulfed me when I saw him between me and that kitchen window.


I hope I react more appropriately next time.

Scary, huh? Don't beat yourself up...everyone's first instinct is running...but:

I've read running can trigger them to chase you, as you might appear as prey...

Have tried this and also read to....make noise! I usually yell "Go bear, go bear"!! They have immediately run off thus far. If you have something in your hands, use that to make noise too.

I'd be backing up very slowly, while keeping him in sight....

I try to keep alert as they are in my area.
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Old 08-24-2018, 12:10 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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https://www.outdoorhub.com/how-to/20...roperly-react/


Bear Encounters in the Backcountry - BearSmart.com


My proctor in Bio 101 was a visiting lecturer emeritus, an old-time British naturalist (earned his PhD in 1910 describing some new species of Hydra). He told us there's a sure way to tell the difference between a black bear and a brown (grizzly) bear-- you sneak up behind it and kick it in the butt. If it runs up a tree, it's a black bear. If you run up a tree, it's a brown bear.


Bears don't come onto your property. You're squatting on their property. If you live where an encounter is at all likely, maybe keeping bear spray with you is a good idea.
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Old 08-24-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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Live and learn, I hope.


Yes, it is a black bear, confirmed (at least in part) by Guido's old time naturalist's approach- Last time he visited us our little dog chased him up a tree.


Bear spray is a good idea. I also like making noise and backing away slowly, since I won't have to remember to carry the spray.

Anyway, having had this experience was good for learning. (always look on the bright side) And sharing it was hopefully good for others to learn also. I knew all the right stuff, but panicked.

Of note, this is in New Haven County in CT. Hasn't been bear country for a long time, but that is changing.

The other thing that is important to note is that bears in rural suburbia are not cute.

Also, thanks for all the tips. :-)

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Old 08-27-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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Yikes! That's an exciting bear story. Quite an experience.

My little tale isn't as relevant to human-animal relationships.

As I mentioned a while ago the wolf spiders seemed to have shown up early this year. There's one which has spun a web on my deck between a planter of cacti and one of the deck chairs and I've left it undisturbed for handy observation.

I've noticed that spider is a tidy housekeeper. Sometimes there will be some manner of bug in the web for a day or two and then it disappears.

Yesterday I stepped out to shake some rugs and noticed movement so I sat down to see what was going on. That's the first time I've seen the spider. Brr. They always give me a chill and this one was no exception.

Spider had ensnared some type of wasp and was busily bundling him up with "silk." It looked like tricky business as Mr. Wasp was still very active. I watched the spider encircle him many times carefully avoiding being stung, it appeared.

When spider started his lunch I had to remove myself. The drama was getting a little too real for comfort. But after about fifteen minutes I stopped by again to see what was now happening and noticed no sign of spider or wasp.

That surprised me. I looked around but couldn't see where they had gone. Do you think spider hides his prey to keep from warning others or from having it purloined?
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Old 08-27-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Interesting question....not enough time to consume the wasp I wouldn't think...maybe one of our spider experts will chime in...

fascinating to watch them at work...
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Old 08-27-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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It IS fascinating and a bit frightening.

Well, I do hope someone can set me straight because I just did a quick google and found in several places that wolf spiders don't spin webs. Yet these guys have been coming in the late summer for years and I've always thought they were wolf spiders. That's what they look and act like. Quick and largish. A brownish dark grey.

It's not a conventional web. More like a mass of fibers with a tunnel in it. Southern MN. Any idea what kind of spider it is?

I took a picture but it was in shadow.
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