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Old 09-30-2011, 05:13 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Let's hope that the Republicans will see this and quickly reassure us that ExxonMobile's "scientists" and Rush Limbaugh have investigated this, and have found that it's of no concern, because there's only a little CO2 in the atmosphere and there have been climate changes in the past.

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Canadian Arctic nearly loses entire ice shelf By CHARMAINE NORONHA - Associated Press | AP – 5 hrs ago

TORONTO (AP) — Two ice shelves that existed before Canada was settled by Europeans diminished significantly this summer, one nearly disappearing altogether, Canadian scientists say in new research.
The loss is important as a marker of global warming, returning the Canadian Arctic to conditions that date back thousands of years, scientists say. Floating icebergs that have broken free as a result pose a risk to offshore oil facilities and potentially to shipping lanes. The breaking apart of the ice shelves also reduces the environment that supports microbial life and changes the look of Canada's coastline. ...............

..... He said the Serson Ice Shelf shrank from 79.15 square miles (205 square kilometers) to two remnant sections three years ago, and was further diminished this past summer.
Copland said the shelf went from a 16-square-mile (42-square-kilometer) floating glacier tongue to 9.65 square miles (25 square kilometers), and the second section from 13.51 square miles (35 square kilometers) to 2 square miles (7 square kilometers), off Ellesmere Island's northern coastline.
This past summer, Ward Hunt Ice Shelf's central area disintegrated into drifting ice masses, leaving two separate ice shelves measuring 87.65 and 28.75 square miles (227 and 74 square kilometers) respectively, reduced from 131.7 square miles (340 square kilometers) the previous year..........

................. The northern coast of Ellesmere Island contains the last remaining ice shelves in Canada, with an estimated area of 217 square miles (563 square kilometers), Mueller said.
Between 1906 and 1982, there has been a 90 percent reduction in the areal extent of ice shelves along the entire coastline, according to data published by W.F. Vincent at Quebec's Laval University. The former extensive "Ellesmere Island Ice Sheet" was reduced to six smaller, separate ice shelves: Serson, Petersen, Milne, Ayles, Ward Hunt and Markham. In 2005, the Ayles Ice Shelf whittled almost completely away, as did the Markham Ice Shelf in 2008 and the Serson this year.
"The impact is significant and yet only a piece of the ongoing and accelerating response to warming of the Arctic," said Dr. Robert Bindschadler, emeritus scientist at the Hydrospheric and Biospheric Sciences Laboratory at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.
Bindschadler said the loss is an indication of another threshold being passed, as well as the likely acceleration of buttressed glaciers able to flow faster into the ocean, which accelerates their contribution to global sea level...... full article at Canadian Arctic nearly loses entire ice shelf - Yahoo! News
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'd call that "weather." I would certainly not want to go back to the Little Ice Age when Washington was fighting the Brits. I hate the cold. But these days, we have a floods in some places and droughts in others. While I like hot weather, 110 degrees is also a little on the extreme side.

I personally don't think we can do much about the weather, aside from the strides we made in getting rid of smog (would you consider smog as a kind of man-made weather?)

I do remember another severe drought we had. My dad was a farmer and he had to temporarily pull up stakes, drive to Dallas, and try to sell cars. I guess I was three years old or so.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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The weather is sunny here in Northern California today, but it is forecast to get colder tomorrow.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:35 PM
 
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Tow them to the middle East so they can have more fresh water...

And blaming Republicans for ice breaking free, Oh yeah! ~ OP intelligence on display
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Tow them to the middle East so they can have more fresh water...

And blaming Republicans for ice breaking free, Oh yeah! ~ OP intelligence on display
Maybe the OP should blame the pot-smiking liberals in CA for global warming Just kidding, folks!
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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I'm not blaming Republicans, I'm making fun of them for being the only powerful group of people on the planet to deny that humans have anything to do with the current global warming/destabilization crisis, and for denying that humans should do anything to try to head it off even a little.

You can't solve a problem by calling the scientific experts in that field "*******s" who supposedly have a "liberal agenda" as a basis for their analyses. You can't solve any problem by denying that it exists.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:38 PM
 
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Tow them to the middle East so they can have more fresh water...

And blaming Republicans for ice breaking free, Oh yeah! ~ OP intelligence on display
I suspect you didn't read beyond the title. It didn't break off and float away, it melted.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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People only read the parts they want to read, and assume the rest. Additionally, further investigation points to parts of Antarctica growing rapidly. When something happens in one part of the world, look for opposite effects elsewhere.

Antarctic ice is growing, not melting away | News.com.au

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ICE is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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Let's hope that the Republicans will see this and quickly reassure us that ExxonMobile's "scientists" and Rush Limbaugh have investigated this, and have found that it's of no concern, because there's only a little CO2 in the atmosphere and there have been climate changes in the past.

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Canadian Arctic nearly loses entire ice shelf By CHARMAINE NORONHA - Associated Press | AP – 5 hrs ago

TORONTO (AP) — Two ice shelves that existed before Canada was settled by Europeans diminished significantly this summer, one nearly disappearing altogether, Canadian scientists say in new research.
The loss is important as a marker of global warming, returning the Canadian Arctic to conditions that date back thousands of years, scientists say. Floating icebergs that have broken free as a result pose a risk to offshore oil facilities and potentially to shipping lanes. The breaking apart of the ice shelves also reduces the environment that supports microbial life and changes the look of Canada's coastline. ...............

..... He said the Serson Ice Shelf shrank from 79.15 square miles (205 square kilometers) to two remnant sections three years ago, and was further diminished this past summer.
Copland said the shelf went from a 16-square-mile (42-square-kilometer) floating glacier tongue to 9.65 square miles (25 square kilometers), and the second section from 13.51 square miles (35 square kilometers) to 2 square miles (7 square kilometers), off Ellesmere Island's northern coastline.
This past summer, Ward Hunt Ice Shelf's central area disintegrated into drifting ice masses, leaving two separate ice shelves measuring 87.65 and 28.75 square miles (227 and 74 square kilometers) respectively, reduced from 131.7 square miles (340 square kilometers) the previous year..........

................. The northern coast of Ellesmere Island contains the last remaining ice shelves in Canada, with an estimated area of 217 square miles (563 square kilometers), Mueller said.
Between 1906 and 1982, there has been a 90 percent reduction in the areal extent of ice shelves along the entire coastline, according to data published by W.F. Vincent at Quebec's Laval University. The former extensive "Ellesmere Island Ice Sheet" was reduced to six smaller, separate ice shelves: Serson, Petersen, Milne, Ayles, Ward Hunt and Markham. In 2005, the Ayles Ice Shelf whittled almost completely away, as did the Markham Ice Shelf in 2008 and the Serson this year.
"The impact is significant and yet only a piece of the ongoing and accelerating response to warming of the Arctic," said Dr. Robert Bindschadler, emeritus scientist at the Hydrospheric and Biospheric Sciences Laboratory at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.
Bindschadler said the loss is an indication of another threshold being passed, as well as the likely acceleration of buttressed glaciers able to flow faster into the ocean, which accelerates their contribution to global sea level...... full article at Canadian Arctic nearly loses entire ice shelf - Yahoo! News
And you think this is abnormal?

http://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/Arctic26-4-314.pdf

Doesn't appear to be.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:36 AM
 
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I suspect you didn't read beyond the title. It didn't break off and float away, it melted.
I'm thinking the same of you:

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TORONTO (AP) — Two ice shelves that existed before Canada was settled by Europeans diminished significantly this summer, one nearly disappearing altogether, Canadian scientists say in new research.
The loss is important as a marker of global warming, returning the Canadian Arctic to conditions that date back thousands of years, scientists say. Floating icebergs that have broken free as a result pose a risk to offshore oil facilities and potentially to shipping lanes. The breaking apart of the ice shelves also reduces the environment that supports microbial life and changes the look of Canada's coastline.
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