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Old 08-13-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Here is the article if you don't know what is going on...

Navajo Nation says it feels brunt of Colorado mine leak



There is more of an outcry for a lion over in Africa then there is over this catastrophe!! There are millions of animals and people that are going to be affected by this.I don't know why the news media is not focusing on this more. This is so wrong!!


I found an online petition to try and get the EPA held accountable for this. If you want to check it out, here is the link
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...river-colorado
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Old 08-15-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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Yes, this is a disturbing situation which is not acceptable. Should we do something about it? Of course
and people are speaking out not only about this but other environmental concerns caused by
deliberate short cuts in order to save money. Unfortunately the EPA has a limited budget due to
significant budget/spending cuts.
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Old 08-15-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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Let's not lose sight that the ultimate culprit is the mining company which created the toxic wastes--leaving taxpayers to clean up their mess.
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Old 08-16-2015, 03:10 AM
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Report I saw said fish seemed mostly okay. Hoping it's true.
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Old 08-16-2015, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Why doesn't Big Brother do something about it??

If the OP is naïve enough to believe that government is in business "to serve people", let alone wildlife, (s)he has some painful "un-learning" -- also called growing up -- to do.

I suspect that the hue-and-cry on thus particular incident will be bigger than usual only because the color of the water made it easier to see and because the area is familiar to the environmentally-sensitive. I live within two blocks of the North Branch of the Susquehanna River, which was stained red for several years back in the Sixties by acidic drainage from (deep) anthracite mines; today, the incident is seldom recalled. There are still several tributaries that can't sustain fish, but the authorities have to decide which would be the easiest to restore, since clean-up isn't cheap and budgets are limited.

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Old 08-17-2015, 07:12 AM
 
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I have no misconceptions about the government(not sure where you got that idea). I know it all comes down to the almighty dollar.

I was just wanting to point out that there is hardly any news coverage about stuff like this happening in the good ole' US of A. Whether its because of politics or whatever...its bull crap. I'm just sick of stuff like a week's worth of news coverage over a lion getting killed in another country and nothing is hardly said about animals and plants getting killed here in the U.S. Its so much easier to go after an individual(as in the case of that dentist hunter), then it is to go after huge businesses. People are too complacent about things that are difficult to fix.

I don't have a solution to anything. I just wanted to vent a little.
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Thats like saying the rubber swimming pool owner is at fault when someone enters their back yard and slashes it open with a razor. Wasn't a problem until the EPA showed up and "accidentally" released the water. This is 100% the fault of the EPA.

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Let's not lose sight that the ultimate culprit is the mining company which created the toxic wastes--leaving taxpayers to clean up their mess.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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Unfortunately the EPA has a limited budget due to
significant budget/spending cuts.
This doesn't have anything to do with budget cuts to the EPA itself, the bulk of the funding for these projects comes from active coal mining. There is a fee applied to every ton of coal mined in this country. Those fees are used specifically for remediation and reclaiming mine scarred areas that have been abandoned and no one is responsible. It doesn't matter if it's coal, silver or whatever mine.

If anything the EPA itself is cutting into funding since it's just coal mines paying this fee.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:56 AM
 
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Let's not lose sight that the ultimate culprit is the mining company which created the toxic wastes--leaving taxpayers to clean up their mess.
There is literally tens of thousands of these sites across the country and like this site can be more than 100 years old, they were created long before there was any regulations. The responsible parties are long gone.

The taxpayer is not paying for the bulk of the cleanup, your electric rates are a little higher as the cost for this falls onto active coal mining.


As far as the toxicity goes, it's all relative. The things found in that water are going to be found in the soil in your backyard, it's the concentrations that are important.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:58 AM
 
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I was just wanting to point out that there is hardly any news coverage about stuff like this happening in the good ole' US of A....
There would have been plenty of it had this been a private company.
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