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Old 05-17-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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I know people that have raised on the bottle Calves, Foals, Deer, Bison And who can forget Elsa the Lioness! Met a lady Decades ago that had a Bear since he was a cub when I meet them he was very old for a bear.
Rescuers raise baby animals & release the healthy one back into the wild. The unfit ones like the Bald Eagle that lost a wing are kept for life. I have a gf that raised Fawns 1-2 every year one year a fawn was born blind, She kept it till it died of ripe old age.
Yes I know All about raising wild animals & tame on a bottle. I was talking out of my hat so to speak. Those ranges just didn't want to give this calf a chance.
Why would they? Why is it better for a bison to be bottle raised and kept in a zoo then to be humanely euthanized? Why is it better for the park service to spend valuable resources from its already strapped budget to assuage the feelings of people who just don't want to deal with reality?

I don't agree that keeping a wild animal in captivity for the rest of its life is better for the wild animal. It just makes humans feel better.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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I don't agree that keeping a wild animal in captivity for the rest of its life is better for the wild animal. It just makes humans feel better.
There's just a whole lot of Bambi Syndrome going on here.

And it's not all city folks. We live in the mountains along side of bears, cougars, elk, deer - and best of all, very few humans. Still, there are the occasional residents who insist on feeding them all, never mind it's against the law. This results in several negative outcomes. One guy fed deer on a schedule despite three visits from the game warden and hundreds in fines.

So, just as the deer have an internal clock for the daily feedings, so did the lions, which had lived in seclusion for the quarter century we've lived up here. After dead and damaged deer began showing up in unnatural numbers, a special permit was issued to a hunter. Result, two dead lions. The guy chose to move rather than obey the law.

Deer are foragers. Feeding them can lead to their death. And we all know the saying, "A fed bear is a dead bear."

Some people think they know better than Mother Nature.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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I am actually a little bit surprised that the rangers even decided to euthanize it, and didn't just let it wander off and die like it most likely would have if it had not been picked up by the tourists in the first place. I guess they were concerned that it had started approaching cars after becoming habituated to humans. It is not the NPS mission or job to take care of sick bison, it is there job to make it possible for nature to take it's course.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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I am actually a little bit surprised that the rangers even decided to euthanize it, and didn't just let it wander off and die like it most likely would have if it had not been picked up by the tourists in the first place. I guess they were concerned that it had started approaching cars after becoming habituated to humans.
I think that's the only reason they chose to interfere. The calf was young, but someone might still have been hurt by it, and of course there was also the risk of a traffic accident. If the calf had eventually wandered off, the rangers would have let it be.

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Old 05-17-2016, 02:02 PM
 
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According to their statement in an earlier post, they attempted to reintroduce it to its herd first. That failed. Then you have to ask, why didn't they leave it there and let nature take its course? Maybe they were now concerned with image and felt that putting it down would cause less of a furor than making it become lunch for predators. Who knows why feds do anything?
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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According to their statement in an earlier post, they attempted to reintroduce it to its herd first. That failed. Then you have to ask, why didn't they leave it there and let nature take its course?
They did leave it there. Unfortunately instead of wandering off to follow the herd, the rejected calf started approaching cars.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:30 PM
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Many people are stupid. This is just an example of someone royally stupid.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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They did leave it there. Unfortunately instead of wandering off to follow the herd, the rejected calf started approaching cars.
Ahh. Okay.
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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Funding NOT needed just a few phone calls. Heck even a cow that's milking would saved that baby. Don't have to buy the cow just give it to the farmer to foster. Any Wildlife rescue would have taken it.

Isn't the point of wildlife rescue to eventually reintroduce the animal into the wild? This bison baby wouldn't have been able to go back to the wild. That's the problem.
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:59 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Isn't the point of wildlife rescue to eventually reintroduce the animal into the wild? This bison baby wouldn't have been able to go back to the wild. That's the problem.
Really? I seen Deer return to the wild & never come back. As well as other wild life

Now where did I say he had to live in a zoo for the rest of his life.
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