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Old 09-26-2018, 05:31 AM
 
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Most animals die from disease or get eaten.Thats why I always have to laugh when PETA people get upset over caged animals, nature in 100 times more cruel.

I don't think the un-sentimentality of nature gives us license to inflict any kind of cruelty we choose on animals.
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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An elephant never forgets.
Their ritual is the same in passing.
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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I have seen Vultures eating away the corpses of dead animals.
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:24 AM
 
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This had been a curiosity of mine for some time, but I didn't know where to stick this post, so if the Moderator can find a more suitable forum for this, feel free to move it.

Yes, when a bear, deer, bird, or any other wild creature gets too old to move around any more, or a bird that can't fly anymore, what becomes of them? As for Pets, when one of our pets gets too old, we simply take it to a Vet to have it euthanized. But there's no one in the wilds to do that for these creatures. They suffer to the very end? Is it possible for any of them to commit suicide when they know their lives are coming to an end?

I was walking last night and spotted a dead bird below a tree. Too old to fly anymore? I watch these hummingbirds feed on my plants every day and I wonder, what happens when these racy creatures can't race anymore?

Any ideas?


They die, like all living things that get too old.
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:28 AM
 
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Most animals die from disease or get eaten.Thats why I always have to laugh when PETA people get upset over caged animals, nature in 100 times more cruel.


I have to laugh at the stupidity of such a statement. What the heck has how a life ends, however it occurs, got to do with the quality of the life lived beforehand?


What you are saying is animals get diseases and die or they get killed. Therefore caging them is inconsequential.


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Humans get diseases and die or they get killed. Therefore caging them is inconsequential.


As my grandma would say - people like you should be locked up.
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Old 09-26-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I have seen Vultures eating away the corpses of dead animals.

That's not the only things vultures eat: https://www.treehugger.com/culture/v...community.html.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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To give you an idea, a deer, if he gets old enough, in theory won't be able to properly chew and feed himself anymore. Assuming that he doesn't get eaten by something by then, assuming he doesn't get sick, they lose weight and die, but most likely get ill from the poor nutrition.

Wolves live on average 4-5 years in the wild.

Think about a sickness, in a domestic dog. That dog, even if he's never treated by a vet, continues to live because he is sheltered and fed. A wild animal has no such support network around him. That ache or sprain your dog has that slows him down? It keeps a wild animal from escaping a predator or hunting food. Etc.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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I don't think the un-sentimentality of nature gives us license to inflict any kind of cruelty we choose on animals.
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I have to laugh at the stupidity of such a statement. What the heck has how a life ends, however it occurs, got to do with the quality of the life lived beforehand?


What you are saying is animals get diseases and die or they get killed. Therefore caging them is inconsequential.


Try this:


Humans get diseases and die or they get killed. Therefore caging them is inconsequential.


As my grandma would say - people like you should be locked up.
I get where he's coming from. Many wild animals "shouldn't" live in confinement; we've all been to the zoo and seen the tiger pacing back and forth. That's said, though I think there's a greater educational value in it that's another thread.

But plenty of animals seem to do just fine in captivity.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:25 PM
 
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What Happens To Animals In The Wild When They Get Too Old?
Probably the same when their eyesight goes BAD...They tumble, fall and become prey to other beasts out there.

The Circle of Life.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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But plenty of animals seem to do just fine in captivity.

Why, because they stay alive and breed? Prisoners live long lives being fed balanced meals and shielded from the harmful rays of the sun, not smoking or drinking. It doesn't mean they are doing just fine or that they aren't mentally destroyed. Never mind the confinement, most wild animals are shy and avoid human contact but in zoos they are forced to live under the constant glare of thousands of noisy people. It must be like living in hell, no matter how pretty the enclosures are. I suspect 100 years from now people will look back and be horrified by the whole concept.

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