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Old 06-05-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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Hello there. I live on Vancouver Island...just off the coast of BC, Canada. I think we have only one native squirrel on the island (the red squirrel) but we have the eastern gray which has been introduced here. Oddly enough though..none of them are grey...they're all black (or melanistic). 10 years ago, you'd see them only occasionally..but these days it seems like they're everywhere. They're even becoming a nuisance since they like to rob our bird feeders dry I just find it odd that none of them are actually grey, all melanistic. Anyone else live in areas with lots of black squirrels? Apparently they're also a lot more territorial and aggressive than the smaller red squirrel, and they push them out of their territory. It would make sense....I've only ever seen one red squirrel in the 17 years I've lived here.

Also..we don't have the douglas squirrel on vancouver island..even though it is found on the mainland.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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We have both the melanistic and the normal gray version of the gray squirrel in my city. Oddly, the melanistic variety is only found in a few neighborhoods, but it's the most common color variety in those neighborhoods. It makes me wonder why that color pattern hasn't spread out more widely in my city.
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Squirrel Tree
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There are a lot of black squirrels but selection for squirrel color has become unfixed in many cities due to the size of the buildings and that they can hide from predators in many locations.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:06 PM
 
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Froscow, I live in the Fraser Valley near the foothills of the Pacific Ranges mountains. Here and in the GVRD metro areas we have plenty of both grey squirrels and black squirrels, and also large predominantly grey squirrels that are actually coloured a specifically patterned mix of white, amber, sable brown, grey and black. None of these three colour types of 'grey' squirrels leave human inhabited areas of the valley/GVRD to go up into the mountains. I don't think they would survive in the wilderness since having become far too adapted to human habitations.

Conversely, you will see no Douglas squirrels in human inhabited areas of the valley and other parts of the southern BC lower mainland unless you hike far up into the forested mountains surrounding the valley, far away from all the cities and humans.

Outside of all of southern BC and the lower mainland, that is to say throughout the rest of BC and on most of the islands, there are red squirrels. And chipmunks. I miss chipmunks, I've seen them everwhere that red squirrels are found in British Columbia but have never seen them here in the lower mainland. I wish they were here (I love them all to little bits and pieces, they're so cute) but I think the much larger and more aggressive introduced greys must have driven them and the reds and Douglas squirrels out of the lower mainland many decades ago.

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Old 06-05-2019, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Squirrel Tree
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Froscow, I live in the Fraser Valley near the foothills of the Pacific Ranges mountains. Here and in the GVRD metro areas we have plenty of both grey squirrels and black squirrels, and also large predominantly grey squirrels that are actually coloured a specifically patterned mix of white, amber, sable brown, grey and black. None of these three colour types of 'grey' squirrels leave human inhabited areas of the valley/GVRD to go up into the mountains. I don't think they would survive in the wilderness since having become far too adapted to human habitations.

Conversely, you will see no Douglas squirrels in human inhabited areas of the valley and other parts of the southern BC lower mainland unless you hike far up into the forested mountains surrounding the valley, far away from all the cities and humans.

Outside of all of southern BC and the lower mainland, that is to say throughout the rest of BC and on most of the islands, there are red squirrels. And chipmunks. I miss chipmunks, I've seen them everwhere that red squirrels are found in British Columbia but have never seen them here in the lower mainland. I wish they were here (I love them all to little bits and pieces, they're so cute) but I think the much larger and more aggressive introduced greys must have driven them and the reds and Douglas squirrels out of the lower mainland many decades ago.

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Red squirrels reside less in populated areas because they eat pine nuts and selectively try to live in pine forests rather than the random mix of items that greys eat. Instead of burying nuts, they put the pine cones in piles aboveground. They're actually more aggressive and loud than greys despite their small size.

Greys do not attack Tamiasciurus chickarees such as American Red Squirrel and Douglas squirrel, they just eat different food and behave differently. Greys and reds are in conflict in Europe because greys didn't live in Europe before and the red squirrels in Europe are a totally different species that has habits that are more similar to greys because they are both in the Sciurus genus. Rats drive chipmunks out of areas because they compete over foods.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:47 AM
 
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Here in Louisiana, there's an abundance of Grey Squirrels. The only black one we've seen was at a beautiful state park. Unfortunately, that park was neglected and later closed, courtesy of Louisiana. RIP Hodges Gardens.

Here in town, there's been reports of a white squirrel. Hopefully we can come across it and take photos of it. Only problem is, coming to town on my day off. Live in the country and would rather not leave! Lol

We see many reds. We call them Fox Squirrels. Don't know why, I guess with the redness.

Have a great day!!
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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Here in Louisiana, there's an abundance of Grey Squirrels. The only black one we've seen was at a beautiful state park. Unfortunately, that park was neglected and later closed, courtesy of Louisiana. RIP Hodges Gardens.

Here in town, there's been reports of a white squirrel. Hopefully we can come across it and take photos of it. Only problem is, coming to town on my day off. Live in the country and would rather not leave! Lol

We see many reds. We call them Fox Squirrels. Don't know why, I guess with the redness.

Have a great day!!
Fox Squirrels can be any color. There's a giant grey one that lives in Delaware. Leucism (white squirrels) is common in animals.
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Hello there. I live on Vancouver Island...just off the coast of BC, Canada. I think we have only one native squirrel on the island (the red squirrel) but we have the eastern gray which has been introduced here. Oddly enough though..none of them are grey...they're all black (or melanistic). 10 years ago, you'd see them only occasionally..but these days it seems like they're everywhere. They're even becoming a nuisance since they like to rob our bird feeders dry I just find it odd that none of them are actually grey, all melanistic. Anyone else live in areas with lots of black squirrels? Apparently they're also a lot more territorial and aggressive than the smaller red squirrel, and they push them out of their territory. It would make sense....I've only ever seen one red squirrel in the 17 years I've lived here.

Also..we don't have the douglas squirrel on vancouver island..even though it is found on the mainland.

No black squirrels here....but we do have solid white ones! Well, with a black spot on the very top of their heads....
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Old 06-06-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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We used to live where we had Abert’s squirrels, which are very dark brown to black, with conspicuous tufted ears. For a while, the silver Kaibab squirrels (silver with tufted ears) also hung around. They seemed to die out later, or maybe they left after drought parched the Ponderosa pines they like.

Here, we don’t have the tufties at our home, but they exist in other nearby areas.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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We live in a group of islands in Michigan. Almost all the squirrels in our community are black. Go to the the mainland and most are red or grey. they get all excited if they see a black squirrel and we laugh.
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