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Old 08-19-2019, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Go back and reread. You are conflating virgin pulp with virgin forest. Virgin pulp is unrecycled fibers.You don't need virgin forest to make virgin pulp, you just need wood. But much of Canada's boreal forest is virgin forest, and its being cut for your butt.
But I like the feel of Canada on my butt!

I still do not know why we do not have enough replanted forest? Is in not growing fast enough?

Around the corner from me there is a pile to timber logs waiting to go off to some mill. They have been there for six months or more. It is all about harvesting all of the dying Ash trees affected by the emerald Ash borer. Apparently there is no market right now and that is why the logs are sitting. At one time they did haul them away, but they stopped, probably as the prices went down. That pile of logs, maybe fifteen or twenty feet high, would probably keep my butt happy for a very long time! That pile is only the tip of the iceberg compared to how many trees have died in the last year form just this one pest.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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But I like the feel of Canada on my butt!

I still do not know why we do not have enough replanted forest? Is in not growing fast enough?

Around the corner from me there is a pile to timber logs waiting to go off to some mill. They have been there for six months or more. It is all about harvesting all of the dying Ash trees affected by the emerald Ash borer. Apparently there is no market right now and that is why the logs are sitting. At one time they did haul them away, but they stopped, probably as the prices went down. That pile of logs, maybe fifteen or twenty feet high, would probably keep my butt happy for a very long time! That pile is only the tip of the iceberg compared to how many trees have died in the last year form just this one pest.



Just like making new plastic is cheaper than recycling it, clearcutting a boreal forest is probably cheaper than farming one.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Just like making new plastic is cheaper than recycling it, clearcutting a boreal forest is probably cheaper than farming one.
According to this article (https://www.theguardian.com/environm...risis-resource) I quote: "There are an estimated 6bn dead trees standing in the US west, with more trees now dying due to disease, insects and wildfire than are being felled for wood products." That sounds like a lot of great soft TP for me!
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:22 PM
 
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According to this article (https://www.theguardian.com/environm...risis-resource) I quote: "There are an estimated 6bn dead trees standing in the US west, with more trees now dying due to disease, insects and wildfire than are being felled for wood products." That sounds like a lot of great soft TP for me!

Or you could get some Preparation H, get some exercise, eat some fiber, and buy TP with partly recycled fiber. You'll be healthier and so will the planet.
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Old 08-22-2019, 04:57 AM
 
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Or you could get some Preparation H, get some exercise, eat some fiber, and buy TP with partly recycled fiber. You'll be healthier and so will the planet.
Tell you what; I'll give them 20 dead Ash trees and that should keep me in my soft TP for my lifetime!
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