Anyone ever moved to Florida (York, McCook: insurance, crime rates, mortgage)
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That makes sense, but in Nebraska as well, you can be fired for just about any reason. There's very little an employer actually has to legally do for you.
The difference is that at least in rural Nebraska people won't fire you just any reason because they realize that:
(1) Good help is hard to find (if you're not good help or don't make an honest effort you only have yourself to blame).
(2) The way you treat your employees reflects on the way your customers perceive you and the friendliness of your business. If you treat your employees terribly it will show and your customers won't like you either.
(3) Everybody knows everybody and is friends with everyone else. Firing someone for no reason is like slapping them, their family and relatives in the face. These are tight knit communities and many people hold jobs for life. Hiring is a serious decision but then again there is a cohesiveness in many businesses that doesn't hold true for other areas.
The difference in big cities/Florida as I see it:
(1) Fierce competition for jobs/terrible employment market - You don't work on all 8 cylinders and give 100% 110% of the time or you make one small mistake and there are hundreds clamoring for your job. You do lose your job and find yourself competing against hundreds for jobs that may even be of lesser pay. Many skilled workers or otherwise good help may be let go for even insanely picky reasons.
(2) You can treat your employees terribly and they will just have to suck it up. Customers have a higher tolerance for hostile environments and negative employees as they expect a more hostile environment. Customers don't see the employees as people they see them more like an iPhone, a Starbucks mocha frappuccino, as a peon that allows them to enjoy instant gratification and the power of "me". There isn't time for small talk and small talk rarely goes on between patrons and employees. Some of it isn't the customers or the employers' fault a lot of it is from the stressors innate to the environment:
(a) Put a bunch of sardines in a can and they are not happy. The constant flow of people, traffic, having to avoid bumping into someone, a bunch of stressed out people with long commutes, demanding bosses, high cost of living, noise, pollution and the people are overstimulated/stressed out. Everywhere they go they have to wait in long lines and compete, compete, compete to survive. Sure it may be more exciting sometimes but its also exhausting!
(b) Customers are much more lawsuit happy. An employer can stand to lose a lot more if they don't take their businesses as seriously.
(c) The numbers are larger - an employer has much higher taxes, costs, etc the larger they are, and if profits go down they can get in much more serious financial trouble.
(3) Its an impersonal society. While it is arguable that in certain professions even in a large city it is a "small world" that might only be true at the higher echelons of the food chain. Who is going to hear if the lowly clerk has their boss be a total jerk and fire them for no apparent reason. Maybe some family, close friends, but it won't have many implications for the boss. Its impossible to know as many people as you get to know in a rural area. While there may be more opportunities in cities, more houses for sale, more garage sales its hard to beat the sheer access to knowledge/gossip from the small town grocery store, coffee shop, what have you. Not that gossip is a good thing but there is good gossip like so and so may be looking to hire someone in the near future you may want to talk to them etc that it is harder to find out in the big city unless you have some close contacts in the right places.
You know, you asked, I answered. I moved to Nebraska 3 years ago to get away from what I described, and much more. If you weren't so much more interested in being snide and snarky, you would have known that, or looked it up. NEGuy and I became friends after he moved here; we have shared similar experiences and stories. But hey, don't believe it f you don't want to. I lived N of Jax, went there frequently on weekends, taught classes in Orlando and Pinellas County, and have friends who moved to Jax after I moved here - and couldn't wait to move again to Seattle, where they live now. Of course, he is a professional with an airline, and his wife is a hospital offical with a PhD. But you are obviously so much smarter and have so many more opportunities than they.
With your attitude, please feel free to move to Florida. You obviously know everything already, and are only asking others to prove to yourself that you are right and everyone else is wrong. Have a nice trip, find a high-paying job, and a nice cheap house, and enjoy your life, as you so obviously know that you can. <shrug>
Yawn. Bored now.
Thanks Granny its funny but most of the people in the Florida forum agreed with us with the exception of one guy who had a good job and rent free housing with his job. Yep skydve seems very naive about the whole deal he says he wants to move for amusement parks but then doesn't want to spend $400 for his family to go to Disney World. What are you going to do now, fly some place with a cheaper amusement park, or would that be too BORING?
That's a fair point. I was speaking more out of experience with Omaha, where people are fired for very little reason. In rural Nebraska, that may very well not be the case
Thanks Granny its funny but most of the people in the Florida forum agreed with us with the exception of one guy who had a good job and rent free housing with his job. Yep skydve seems very naive about the whole deal he says he wants to move for amusement parks but then doesn't want to spend $400 for his family to go to Disney World. What are you going to do now, fly some place with a cheaper amusement park, or would that be too BORING?
Amusement parks are only a small small % of of my time. I go two times a year. And even then its boring.
I am speaking more of day to day life with very little chance of doing something different without it becoming a major project.
BTW, I DONT HATE NEBRASKA. There are things I do hate such as:
Severe Winters
SCentralNEGuy
That's a fair point. I was speaking more out of experience with Omaha, where people are fired for very little reason. In rural Nebraska, that may very well not be the case
That's why I enjoy visiting but don't want to live in Omaha. Too chaotic to me.
Amusement parks are only a small small % of of my time. I go two times a year. And even then its boring.
I am speaking more of day to day life with very little chance of doing something different without it becoming a major project.
BTW, I DONT HATE NEBRASKA. There are things I do hate such as:
Severe Winters
SCentralNEGuy
Thanks!
Haha Granny I think I've succeeded if he hates me more than you, usually people find that you have strong opinions but I guess I must do too! By the way the winters are not severe try the Dakotas, try Wisconsin, try Michigan, try Minnesota, try Upstate New York, try a number of different places that are colder than Nebraska.
Thanks Granny its funny but most of the people in the Florida forum agreed with us with the exception of one guy who had a good job and rent free housing with his job. Yep skydve seems very naive about the whole deal he says he wants to move for amusement parks but then doesn't want to spend $400 for his family to go to Disney World. What are you going to do now, fly some place with a cheaper amusement park, or would that be too BORING?
Gee, why am I not surprised?
Gunluvver and geog-fanatic have hit the nails on the head as well; Boring people usually are bored and have only themselves to blame, and skydve will find more people just like him in Florida. Go. Leave. Buh-bye. But in six months, don't come on here with a new alias whining about how awful Florida is and how you want to come back, because you're broke and can't find a job and the cost of living is so high, blah blah blah... Don't let the screen door hit yuh where the good Lawd split yuh. Leave Nebraska for the ones who appreciate all it has to offer.
Come to think of it, I bet you will fit in well down there and have the opportunity to meet a lot of people with a personality very similar to yours.
So true. I've never been to Omaha so I'm not sure about the types of people you have up there. I can tell you what to excpect here in Florida. Lots and lots of shady folks, rude people and I think the Tampa area has to be the redneck capitol of the US.
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