U.S. Cities  
Merry Christmas!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Nebraska
Register Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to City-Data.com forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with 700,000 other registered members. User profiles and some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your free account you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 15,000 posts/day about local topics and you will see fewer ads.

Get a detailed profile
Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
Reply


 
Old 07-23-2009, 05:17 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
64 posts, read 41,438 times
Reputation: 45
keltec is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattpoulsen View Post
What is with people like you calling everyone that disagrees with you a "liberal." Where did I say that I think they should be able to freely enter the U.S.?? All I said is maybe you should take responsibility for your own situation and quit blaming your circumstances on an entire group of people. I mean the stuff you say is absurd. Bring their "crime and disease!" Good god. You don't think there isn't plenty of crime and disease in the "legal" population. You cite things like the murders in Norfolk. Ok. Well, what about the 1000's of murders committed in the US by "legals?" Being a person who flees a horrible situation in their home country to feed their family does NOT make someone a criminal. Are some illegals criminals? Absolutely. But plenty are simply people born in a horrible situation trying to make a better life. Yet, in your mind they are all criminal disease ridden drug dealers. My problem is YOU grouping them all together. "When they obey OUR laws and respect OUR society." You make me sick.

I am no liberal on the subject and I think the laws should be enforced. However, I also get sick and tired of people like you using the situation to blame other people for your circumstances.

I am also sick and tired of people like you reducing everything to "stupid liberal" commentary. How childish can you be?? I'm a freaking republican and i believe we should quell the influx, however I'm not a big fan of scapegoating an entire population because YOU and others like you won't take responsibility of your own life.

Uh, doing illegal activities does make one a criminal, like it or not. Republicans are just as much to blame also so I'll drop the liberal puke comments. I will admit that was uncalled for on my part. It still remains a truth that the illegals should try fixing their own nation before importing their problems into the USA. It's just as bad when dems and repubs court the illegals just to grab the vote of valid hispanics which is happening all too often. You can have your opinion, I'll have mine. When you neighborhood is trashed by the influx of uneducated and corrupt illegals, you will change your mind. That I can promise you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-23-2009, 08:07 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
222 posts, read 115,240 times
Reputation: 152
todd00 has a spectacular aura abouttodd00 has a spectacular aura abouttodd00 has a spectacular aura abouttodd00 has a spectacular aura about
i have no problems if pple follow the rules to get here. do the immigration red tape etc, but many or most here dont do that its a fact. people that are breaking the law should not be rewarded in any way. i completely understand pples frustrations with this issue. if you want to live here, learn the language become apart of the community. that doesnt mean one has to forget your native culture, but many create barriers by speaking only spanish in public and generally being unfriendly with never a smile or hello. shipping them back is like throwing a boomerang, its not a long term solution. but this problem didnt just start yesterday, its been like this many, many yrs. the government has mismanaged it as they do most everything. to me its not at all a racial issue, its about breaking the law and entering the country illegally and then reaping benefits that they should not be entitled to. why wouldnt pple be angry at that. if pple speak out they are called racists, but thats just to avoid the real issues of breaking laws and getting what they are not entitled to. and the politicians sit on the fence frightened to be labeled a hater. an age old song that need to change.


mattpoulsen, there are many very poor countries in the world, should we let them all stay over here illegally too? helping countries fix their own problems would be a more beneficial use of funds, than to reward pple for breaking the law. look at our own problems here, its no utopia from where i sit. there are certainly some good hard working pple just trying to make a better life, at the same time there are many involved in gang life, and crime. and gang problems in small communities that never heard of such a thing before. what positives do they bring with them. if a person is in another country illegally, what should happen to them? should they be rewarded for not getting caught, for using the system for all they can get? common sense says no.

Last edited by todd00; 07-23-2009 at 08:25 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-23-2009, 10:53 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Laurel, Nebraska
79 posts, read 32,502 times
Reputation: 39
Nitemarehippy is on a distinguished road
Too funny!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-23-2009, 11:03 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Laurel, Nebraska
79 posts, read 32,502 times
Reputation: 39
Nitemarehippy is on a distinguished road
South Park Episode Player - Goobacks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-23-2009, 11:47 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Omaha
951 posts, read 980,819 times
Reputation: 308
mattpoulsen is a jewel in the roughmattpoulsen is a jewel in the roughmattpoulsen is a jewel in the roughmattpoulsen is a jewel in the roughmattpoulsen is a jewel in the roughmattpoulsen is a jewel in the roughmattpoulsen is a jewel in the rough
Todd,

Where exactly did I state that I thought we should let them stay or not force illegal immigrants to face some sort of consequences?? Show me where.

All I stated is that I am disgusted by those who lump all Mexicans into the "illegal" category and then all "illegals" into the "diseased criminal drug dealer" category. One does NOT need to be a racist in order to be a proponent of a responsible immigration policy!!

I would add that YOU did exactly what sickens me. You explicitly claim that "most" immigrants are illegal immigrants. Why do you think this?? Do you look at there papers? I know many Mexican-Americans in Nebraska and not one single one of them is an illegal immigrant.

I would also add that if you would actually check the stats the actual net gain of immigrants from Mexico has drop to the point now that only about 300,000 net immigrants are coming each year. That means many less are coming than before and many more are going back to Mexico than before. In relation to overall population growth that number puts Mexican immigrants at a nearly 0% growth rate.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.



Reply


Quick Reply
Message:

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads


Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Nebraska

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:24 PM.

Copyright © 2005-2009, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 - Top