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Old 10-26-2018, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KSinmyrearviewmirror View Post
As a Kansan, I can't let that fly without commenting that Lyle Sankey was a grade behind me in grade school. Who is Lyle Sankey? As a western sports athlete, Lyle Sankey is one of only four men to qualify for the NFR in bareback, saddle bronc and bull riding. See Sankey Rodeo Schools

Kansas a word readily recognizable as derived from the Native American tribal name Kansa, or "Wind People,"; has labored unsuccessfully to increase tourism for decades. There was a campaign where IF you stayed overnight in X # of KS hotels, bought gas, etc => you got a free (plastic) Coleman ice chest (founded by William Coffin Coleman, who began selling gasoline pressure lamps in 1900 in Kingfisher, Oklahoma. He moved to Wichita, Kansas, in 1902.)

Or the Travel & Tourism ad campaign depicting Wichita's downtown skyline with a building several stories higher than any building in Wichita!

One problem KS has recently left behind => KS was 50th in per capita public lands, BUT Rhode Island has somehow taken over that distinction. HOW? My educated guess would be KS lost enough population to give each of us an extra acre or two to hike, bike, fish, hunt, camp on; remember KS is 98% private lands. I know for sure that KS did NOT add additional public lands. Then it's possible that many Kansans left for RI & decreased that state's per capita public lands.

The KS Dept. of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism has been tasked by the Legislature to put a resort @ one of the state parks. A request for proposals resulted in no bids. CoE lake levels here fluctuate too much to put a resort above the dams; (many campgrounds are flooded every Memorial Day). When the Flood of '93 required the CoE to release water thru Tuttle Creek Reservoir's emergency spillway, the resulting force of the water tore thru the Corps' concrete spillway & thru several layers of bedrock => instantly becoming the #1 tourist attraction in Kansas, until the CoE filled in the new canyon!

Last year, KDWP&T campaigned the city of Lawrence & Douglas County to pass STAR Bonds to fund a Whitewater Kayak Park @ Clinton Reservoir. A NC company would build the park using TAX $ (a new tax district would be created & the portion of the hotels, restaraunts, gas stations sales taxes would retire the bonds => lost sales taxes @ pre-existing businesses already in town. The park would reduce the state's public lands by 40 acres, in exchange for the chance to pay $65 for a daily whitewater pass. KDPW&T estimated millions would come from KC , StL & Omaha to kayak a man-made ditch (that NC company's 1st location had some problems with a patron who contracted a brain-eating amoeba, as the reliance on sunlight to treat the water was < bright idea.

I realized long ago, most Kansans do NOT imagine that anyone would be interested in what they see across the fence, day in, day out. Our state parks are predominantly murky CoE reservoirs filled with ag sediment/chemicals (John Redmond Reservoir was recently dredged by the CoE; the contract had to be increased several-fold, as the estimate of silt was lowballed; and in the end the effort was cut short.) Kansas has only 2 navigable rivers, the Arkansas & Kansas. All other rivers/streams are owned by the adjacent property owners (half-way to center of river). To canoe/kayak other bodies of water, you must have the permission of the property owners.

I'm aware that Nebraska has a much more diverse state park system, we've stayed in cabins @ Niobrara & Ponca SPs (KS has prisoners build cabins & they're hauled to locations @ state parks assumed to be above flood zones; the cabins are identical). Nebraska still has a National Forest (with recreational facilities). Kansas' National Forest was abandoned decades ago.

I would imagine that many Nebraskans, like Kansans, don't place a value on "public lands," other than they're not on the tax rolls. There are many interesting points of interest in Kansas, but 98% of them are on private lands with NO TRESPASSING signs & locked gates.

I know of both Sankey Rodeo Company and Michael Martin Murphy. I use to have the movie, The Great American Cowboy which was about both Larry Mahan and Phil Lyne. Phil totally amazed me, being that he competed in both bull riding and calf roping. A rodeo cowboy who competed in both a roughstock and timed-event...…..pretty darn good.

The guy that's got my interest today is Tie-Down Roper, Cory Solomon. He is good friends with Fred Whitfield, whom wife and I have met him, his wife and daughter. Cory could definitely be the next Fred Whitfield!
Wife and I will be watching the Wrangler NFR this December on CBS Sports Network.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:56 AM
Location: South Austin, 78745
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Originally Posted by LoveBoating View Post
Article states: "If you gauge success by media attention, Nebraska’s frank, in-your-face new tourism slogan — “Honestly, it’s not for everyone” — is already a big hit."

Well, I've been thru Nebraska before and even knew a rodeo announcer, Hadley Barrett, who was from the state. He was also inducted into the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame in 1999. I was a member of PRCA for many years, but my rodeo days ended when wife and I left So California. However, we are both huge fans of rodeo and have met numerous World Champions.

Anyway, since my teenage years were brought up on the flat-land, farming area of northeastern Indiana, it didn't bother me traveling thru Nebraska and seeing mostly farm land. However, when most folks go on a vacation, they obviously want to see more than that.

Actually, I think the same slogan could be used for parts (notice the word "parts") of Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, Kansas and Oklahoma. I've been to all but North Dakota.
That's a very honest tourism slogan. It's much more polite than something like Oregon had a few years back that went something like, "Enjoy your visit to Oregon but please don't move here", which I thought sounded kinda rude.

When I was a kid I thought I would like to live in Nebraska for no other reason but because I thought it had the nicest sounding name of all the 50 states.

The Great Plains has to be one of the most over looked and under appreciated beautiful sections of the country. Flat vastness in all directions as far as the eye can see and with no trees to block the view, you can see where the sky meets the earth. The Great Plains are beautiful in their own unique way but there's no place to hide.

One of my faborite record albums of all time is Bruce Springsteen's "Nebraska" album from the early 1980's. I think it's one of the darkest albums ever made. With just Bruce on an old wooden straight back chair and his guitar and harmonica, sounds like it was recorded in the middle of a dark room in an old house with a high ceiling and wood floors that sounds like ghostly echos from a long time ago. I never heard any other album quite like it. It's very unique.

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Old 10-27-2018, 12:33 PM
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I think many locals, that have lived in certain states/small towns and cities, get sick of folks moving in from big cities, like Chicago, NYC, L.A. and perhaps even the state of Florida AND trying to change the area to something else. People have to move for different reasons. Some moves are wanted, while other moves aren't so wanted, but have to be done.

I think by the Nebraska Tourist Industry noting that "Nebraska isn't for everyone", is the perfect way of stating just that...….Nebraska simply isn't for everyone. Just like I said in another post here......…"neither is parts of Colorado, most of, if not all, of Wyoming, Montana, the Dakota's and Kansas"

People can vacation or move to wherever they want to, but certain areas of the U.S. is simply more interesting to some than to others.

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Old 11-03-2018, 09:17 AM
Location: Riley Co
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Default Who Knows Why I Find NE/KS Oddities Interesting?

My wife & I have been using the The WPA Guide to 1930s Kansas for decades. There are descriptions of towns/points of interest along numerous routes across the state. KS has a granite outcrop near Rose; wagon train ruts can be seen in this pasture; Eisenhower/“Blackjack” Pershing would ride the train to the (original) Brookville Hotel for fried chicken dinner; utopian communities (one relied on producing silk from mulberry trees); ANYTHING the locals would brag about is documented (Boot Hill was a one-man ruse prior to the Depression).

I suggested to the planning committee of the Flint Hills Discovery Center that a kiosk developed by Garmin (KS company) could interact with visitors, permit them to download maps/guides & upload pictures of prairie wildflowers they took that morning (many are only in bloom for short periods)/badger/antelope/bald eagle + coordinates. The aspects of the plains are ephemeral in viewing: Missouri evening primrose will be blooming at sunrise & showy enough to catch your eye as you go down the road; by afternoon there's "nothing to see." Spotting wildlife is like that. A thunderstorm on an unobstructed horizon. Cloud shade patterns on the Flint Hills landscape.

Nebraska: A Guide to the Cornhusker State:
First published in 1939, Nebraska: A Guide to the Cornhusker State was collaboratively written by the Federal Writers’ Project (FWP). As part of the Works Project Administration, the FWP gathered together some of the best writers of the era. Collectively, they undertook a nationwide initiative to record information about America and create comprehensive guides to their respective states. The wonderful results were a well-written blend of travel guide, ethnography, local history, and cultural document.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:20 AM
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by Garthur View Post
Even though Nebraska state taxes are some of the highest in the country people still want to live here. There must be an attraction to the state that I don't understand.
Gonna defend a fellow plains state, I hear only one criticism of Nebraska and that is "cold". Omaha has a stellar reputation and most people I know have enjoyed Lincoln. Maybe the other thing I've heard about Nebraska is that the scenic parts are so far removed from the urban centers. Some people have commented about some scenery that they enjoyed in western Nebraska but they were usually on their way to the Black Hills/Rapid City.

From an events standpoint, I have never heard a single person who didn't come back from the CWS with just glowing reports about Omaha and that event. I've not gone but have been to several Husker games and very much enjoyed haymarket and downtown Lincoln and that was when Haymarket was just developing.

Nebraska scores high in education and in the overall health and wealth of it's citizens among most of the states. Maybe people aren't willing to come visit given all the other options out there but there would appear to be some appeal to living in Nebraska for people who want a certain lifestyle.
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:46 AM
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I remember, back in the mid 90's, when I was traveling (actually, trying to relocate, but that didn't happen), I stopped outside of Lincoln at a motel for the night. I was eating supper in my room and turned on local news. There was a news story about the serious drug problem Lincoln was having and that local law enforcement was asking other agencies for help controlling it.

Nebraska is a wonderful state, but for me, Lincoln and Omaha are just to big to live in. As I've already stated about how much wife and I like seeing ranch and farm land. Seeing Angus, Limousine or other breeds of cattle grazing is definitely exciting to us.
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