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Old 03-04-2007, 10:45 PM
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It would do you good to learn about "relativity". Really.
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Old 03-05-2007, 04:33 AM
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I am truely amazed that MattDen is still living in Nebraska. There is nothing about Nebraska that he seems to like. In one of his posts to a different thread he asks where all of the college students are in UNL as he never sees any. In this thread he seems to be talking to many of them who, I think he means, are going to move out of Nebraska when they graduate.

He talks about how bad the job market is in Nebraska, but what did he come to Nebraska for? Why did he leave such a rich job market area like Denver? Why hasn't he landed a good job in the rich job market region in Chicago or Minneapolis? He must have come for a job in a depressed job market state like Nebraska, because the pay must have been good enough to get away from these other job markets.

I hope that he someday finds the perfect place to live in, but I don't think that is going to be possible even in Chicago, Minneapolis, Colorado, South Dakota or Wyoming. We have those individuals who only want to complain about everything around them and MattDen is one of these individuals. He must be very unhappy with his way of life.
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Old 03-05-2007, 05:20 AM
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I think its ironic how when the figures show something people dont want to see. Such as, Omaha's job market is very weak compared to what it was and isnt getting any better that people would deflect that onto the person writing what un-biased official statistics say. I was just passing along statistics not passing opinions when it came to pointing out the official job numbers over the last 12 years.

I dont see how pointing out that as opposed to Des Moines, Sioux Falls and Fargo that Omaha's economic numbers are much weaker doesnt make me "unhappy". I was just pointing out the official un-biased job growth numbers from the Bureau of Labor statistics.

It is not in my opinion its what the official statistics say. And the official statistics should be cause for concern for Omaha. Going from gaining 80,000 jobs from 1994-2000 to gaining 12,800 from 2000-2006 should be big alarm for Omaha to get its economic act together.

What is interesting despite the economy which is much slower growing then the mid and late 90s time frame in Omaha with lackluster (1.4%) job growth the politicians get re-elected by a huge margin.

I also dont understand why Omaha and Lincoln cater so much to the rural part of the state, I think Omaha would be doing much better economically if it had a "me first" attitude and didnt worry so much about extremely rural Nebraska and spending on resources there. With the economy progressing so slowly now would be a perfect time to reduce state subsidies to rural Nebraska but then again the elected officials from Omaha and Lincoln tend to cater to rural Nebraska rather then serve the interests of the voters in their districts which has had a profound impact on the economy.

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Old 03-05-2007, 11:31 AM
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Mattden... do you remember the recession the US went through beginning about 2000 and ending about 2004-2005, well Omaha isn't perfect and with the rest of the US it had a bit of a recession and recovered nicely in the last year adding 11,000 jobs between 2005-2006, Mattden I know not everyone was affected by the recession, but most cities were and Omaha did take a hit and is recovering, what you are not noting in your post here is that in 2000 Omahan's made just below the national average per capita, but in 2005 made $3,000+ per capita more than the average US per capita... Why didn't you note this? Because your agenda is to bring down a city you do not like because you are not from here and it has about half the population of the city your from... So Mattden, we all understand that your city is perceptually better to you, so leave it at that, quit trying to convince people that this great 'smaller' city is so bad... Please stop posting this biased garbage, and just transfer to a Colorado university, your biased hatred for the city is duly noted by everyone, and since you made your presence it would be great if you would stop repeating this biased information that does not represent the true direction and true identity of the city... Mattden as a favor, I understand that you have your opionion, but let the people who have lived here longer who know more like us (some of us are urban planners and have lived in other areas of the US) represent the city that 'we, not you' love... Thank you
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:23 PM
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MattDen I would like to add to ehenningsen commet to you. You don't understand why Omaha and Lincoln don't have a "me first" attitude and shouldn't worry so much about extremely rural Nebraska and didnt worry so much about extremely rural Nebraska and spending on resources there, because you don't understand the people of Nebraska. If it was not for those rural parts of Nebraska Lincoln and Omaha would not be where they are at today. It is the rural parts of Nebraska that make our State it is not Lincoln and Omaha. We don't care what they are doing in Des Moines, Sioux Falls, Fargo, Chicago, Minneapolis, Denver or any other place that you can think of. We, according to you, the uneducated rural hay seed country red necks like our way of life just fine and we do not need someone who has only been here for seven months to come here and tell us how bad we have it. Stay here for say the next 30 years then tell us how bad it has been here for you. Then we might ask you why did you stay here then. Until then stop with your one sided remarks about our state, after all it is not your state. We like it here and we will take care of the people of Scottsbluff Nebraska the same way that we will take care of and treat the people of Omaha, O'Neil or Superior. I guess I feel like the three Musketeers did, all for one and one for all. attitude as a true Nebraska native. Besides that we have one of the finest school systems in America in both public and private schools from Kindergarden to Doctoral levels. You see we are not that uneducated as you think. Are you attending one of our fine colleges MattDen? You have never told anyone why you are even in Nebraska?
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Old 03-05-2007, 04:16 PM
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MattDen I would like to add to ehenningsen commet to you. You don't understand why Omaha and Lincoln don't have a "me first" attitude and shouldn't worry so much about extremely rural Nebraska and didnt worry so much about extremely rural Nebraska and spending on resources there, because you don't understand the people of Nebraska. If it was not for those rural parts of Nebraska Lincoln and Omaha would not be where they are at today. It is the rural parts of Nebraska that make our State it is not Lincoln and Omaha. We don't care what they are doing in Des Moines, Sioux Falls, Fargo, Chicago, Minneapolis, Denver or any other place that you can think of. We, according to you, the uneducated rural hay seed country red necks like our way of life just fine and we do not need someone who has only been here for seven months to come here and tell us how bad we have it. Stay here for say the next 30 years then tell us how bad it has been here for you. Then we might ask you why did you stay here then. Until then stop with your one sided remarks about our state, after all it is not your state. We like it here and we will take care of the people of Scottsbluff Nebraska the same way that we will take care of and treat the people of Omaha, O'Neil or Superior. I guess I feel like the three Musketeers did, all for one and one for all. attitude as a true Nebraska native. Besides that we have one of the finest school systems in America in both public and private schools from Kindergarden to Doctoral levels. You see we are not that uneducated as you think. Are you attending one of our fine colleges MattDen? You have never told anyone why you are even in Nebraska?
Good post kos, rural and urban feed each other, without one, the success of the other would be much less, we feed on each other and there is a big free-flo between the Nebraska community... Education is not an issue in rural Nebraska Mattden, actually many farmers have degrees.. Yes, farming is so specialized now adays that it would be near impossible to complete without either many years of apprenticeship or an education at a major university. You do realize Mattden that just because somebody doesn't live in a major city that does not mean that they are redneck, ignorant uneducated fools... Almost everything you do requires education even in rural areas, I expect a big-city 'all knowing', 'know-it-all" folk like you to know this..
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default 2005 Census survey numbers for Omaha economy

Source 2005 Census fact sheet

These are new economic numbers from Census department in regards to per-capita income

Its such a shame that leadership in Omaha is so asleep at the wheel.

I was just looking up the numbers for Omaha on the 2005 Census fact sheet
Poverty Rate:
Omaha 15.3%
United States 13.3%

Per-Capita Income:
Nebraska 22,885
Omaha 23,501
United States 25,035
Comparisons to bordering cities
Sioux Falls: 25,345
Fargo: 26,596
Minneapolis: 26,886
Rochester, MN 31,142
Per-Capita Income: Thats about 6% below the national average for Omaha

Median Household Income:
Omaha 40,484
Nebraska 43,849
United States 46,242
Median Household Income: Thats about 13% below the national average for Omaha
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:43 AM
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You still have not gotten it MattDen and you never will. Matter of fact why don't you drive up to Omaha real soon so that you can educate and wake up the leadership in Omaha. Bet they will educate you instead by telling you that they don't care about the facts that you seem to have.

When and if you do go to Omaha why don't you post how your trip and meeting with the sleepy leadership of Omaha turns out. Now that would be something to read about.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:02 AM
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One more thing MattDen for your information here is the estimates for family income for Nebraska that was done during the 10 year cycle that the feds do census taking. These are from the 2000 US Census. The next full census is due in 2010. You can go there for your self and see if you like. I have even made it easy for you as here is the web page link for you to go to.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/incom...medfaminc.html



Nebraska Estimate Margin of Error
Total: 55,073 +/-791
2-person families 48,798 +/-970
3-person families 56,991 +/-1528
4-person families 64,800 +/-2342
5-person families 62,320 +/-3705
6-person families 60,223 +/-3239
7-or-more-person families 55,332 +/-6782

Plus in checking the Poverty Status by State: 2005 I see that poor old Nebraska is having individuals below the poverty level that the federal government makes based upon the entire nation is somewhere between 9.5 to 12.7 percent. Now for the great state of Colorado in this same table they have 11.4 to 15.6 percent. Looks like Nebraska is doing better. Keep in mind that these are just estimates done by someone in the federal government. Also the federal government does not break it down to individual cities either. You can check this out also for your self at this web link if you would like.

http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/03200..._100125_01.htm

Please post where you are getting your information as I do so that you can educate yourself.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:55 AM
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Of course Omaha doesnt care about the economic numbers. As long as the rich clique who runs the town is doing very well, why should they care if Omaha is 3,000 dollars per-capita poorer overall then Fargo and 7,500 dollars poorer per-capita then Rochester, Minnesota


The people who run the city of Omaha and this is widely known just want to find as many excuses to raise property taxes so they give pet-projects to their best friends.

I dont care (in fact I think its comical), I dont live in Omaha or own property so I am not the one being taken for a ride like home owners in Omaha are because of the way to the city is operated.


I have to admit I think its interesting how Omaha is run and how so many residents can be brainwashed by the city.

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