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Old 01-02-2008, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls Vicinity
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Because he is the child's father! No one likes to see their kid picked on!


Why should the burden be on the son? The teachers/staff at the school should have disciplined the other kids for their inappropriate behavior.

THANK YOU, pittnurse. !
And it was obvious the kids were getting their attitudes from their parents because the kids were so young, which is what really bothered me the most.

And we are talking about a very young kid: he was in the first grade.

I'm sensing Chris and Nurse are parents, and someone else isn't.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^ Yes, I am a parent.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I'm sensing Chris and Nurse are parents, and someone else isn't.

If that comment was meant for me ColeSD you are right, I am not a parent. However I saw the results of idiotic parents and teachers while working in Corrections for ten years. Not that I am implying that you are an idiot.

GL2
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I'm sensing Chris and Nurse are parents, and someone else isn't.

If that comment was meant for me ColeSD you are right, I am not a parent. However I saw the results of idiotic parents and teachers while working in Corrections for ten years. Not that I am implying that you are an idiot.

GL2
I would say you saw a rather dysfunctional subset of parents.
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Western Nebraskansas
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Can I play? I'm a teacher and a parent of two.

I think both sides are right.

Kids have to learn how to solve their own problems (and that includes bullies) just because that's part of the world in which they live. They have to learn how to deal with people like that because they're always going to be there.
And a lot of parents are so careful to protect their kids that the children simply don't get to learn those vital lessons. (However, all too often they do learn that Mom & Dad will bail them out of any jam, which isn't necessarily the lesson you want them to learn )

The flip side of this coin is that the other kids need to be learning that it's simply not okay to treat other kids that way. That whole Golden Rule thing is a good way to live, afterall.
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Old 01-02-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Here are some links about bullying. I know we are getting off-topic.

Dealing With Bullying

MedlinePlus: Bullying

These are both reputable organizations.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:49 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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THANK YOU, pittnurse. !
And it was obvious the kids were getting their attitudes from their parents because the kids were so young, which is what really bothered me the most.

And we are talking about a very young kid: he was in the first grade.

I'm sensing Chris and Nurse are parents, and someone else isn't.
I am not a parent, but I have been bullied at a younger age. When I become a parent, I, like my parents, will be proactive if my son or daughter gets bullied. To some extent, bullying is part of life and a kid needs to learn to deal with it. But, there are times when bullying needs to be be addressed by the parents, teacher, and school administration. The bullying of a kid due to a difference that he/she cannot change such as being handicapped or being a different race is an example of bullying that should be addressed.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Can I play? I'm a teacher and a parent of two.

I think both sides are right.

Kids have to learn how to solve their own problems (and that includes bullies) just because that's part of the world in which they live. They have to learn how to deal with people like that because they're always going to be there.
And a lot of parents are so careful to protect their kids that the children simply don't get to learn those vital lessons. (However, all too often they do learn that Mom & Dad will bail them out of any jam, which isn't necessarily the lesson you want them to learn )

The flip side of this coin is that the other kids need to be learning that it's simply not okay to treat other kids that way. That whole Golden Rule thing is a good way to live, afterall.
Very good points.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Can I play? I'm a teacher and a parent of two.

I think both sides are right.

Kids have to learn how to solve their own problems (and that includes bullies) just because that's part of the world in which they live. They have to learn how to deal with people like that because they're always going to be there.
And a lot of parents are so careful to protect their kids that the children simply don't get to learn those vital lessons. (However, all too often they do learn that Mom & Dad will bail them out of any jam, which isn't necessarily the lesson you want them to learn )

The flip side of this coin is that the other kids need to be learning that it's simply not okay to treat other kids that way. That whole Golden Rule thing is a good way to live, afterall.
I agree, good points. I think the approach is different for a six year old than for a sixteen year old, too.
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I taught my children how to deal with bullies. I put them in karate classes - and took them with them, to be sure that they were not being trained to be potential bullies. Instead they learned self-defense, and what REALLY mattered - when to let something go, and when to stand up for themselves. Having parents say "let it go" or "Stand up for yourself" - and having a professional fighter say it and set the example - are two entirely different things. Having Mommy come to the rescue does not save the child from bullies; it exacerbates the problem.

It worked, too. My daughter went from being a bullied insecure kid to a confident person who would laugh at most stuff, but who would stand up not only for herself but for others when necessary. Once she was attacked on the playground by three boys; she beat them all. When the parents brought their bullies in, demanding that she be punished, the Headmaster looked at them and said, "You mean to tell me that you admit that all three of them attacked her and she beat them up? You're willing to tell the school that a single girl beat all three of them up at once?"

She never had another problem.
Bullies may be a fact of life but there is no reason that any child or adult should have to put up with being bullied. When we "accept" them, or 'punish everyone' rather than the guilty party alone, we permit them to do whatever they want. They know how to play that 'counseling' gig to their advantage - because they are bullies, which means that they know how to lie and manipulate as well as to harass others to cause hurt.

Last edited by SCGranny; 01-03-2008 at 12:54 AM.. Reason: added last sentences
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