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11-24-2008, 08:35 PM
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Currently the right to marry someone of your own gender does not exist. By creating this right because a minority of people want it, you are asking for special rights.
Your intolerant attitude about what my motives aside, I don't hate anyone.
If you can find Biblical precedence for same-sex marriage, I'll support it. But good luck with that. Make sure you use anything you find in context.
At this point , I've not used the Bible as my reason for opposing it. It is interesting though, that someone that criticizes Christianity is trying to reason from it, though.
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Its banned in Nebraska only because of an amendment. The original state constitution as well ast he US Constitution do not ban gay marriage. So basically to ban gay marriage, state officials had to go out of their way and create the initiative. Voters went out of their way to ban a right already granted, not created. Gay marriage is not a right we have to create. It is an inalienable right that had to be banned by the passage of an amendment, the very hate legislation I have been speaking of. Not only does this hate legislation ban gay marriage it also bans gay civil unions and gay domestic partnership. This is a prime example of just how bigoted Nebraska truly is.
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11-24-2008, 09:07 PM
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the rich people crying over "higher" taxes have a legitimate beef. I bet they'd appreciate having to pay the same tax rate as you and me. But because they make more, they pay a higher percentage of their larger income.
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No, not really.. They live under the same laws that we do, they had 'choosen' their path in life just like 'I' choose to be gay..
They don't have to pay more taxes.. They could choose to be like you and I in our respective incomes...
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11-25-2008, 01:52 AM
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the rich people crying over "higher" taxes have a legitimate beef. I bet they'd appreciate having to pay the same tax rate as you and me. But because they make more, they pay a higher percentage of their larger income.
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Here's another post ignorant of issues. The fact is rich people get tax loopholes, so they end up paying a lesser percentage of taxes than us socalled commoners and peasants.
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11-25-2008, 11:45 AM
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What would have happened if 2 men would have gone down to the courthouse 50 years ago to get married?
The fact that no law existed to prevent it doesn't necessarily mean it's automatically a "right".
Is it legal for me to hunt polar bears in Scottsbluff? Or is it just one of those things that was unheard of?
Driving would be a good example, too. A nine year old cannot drive in Nebraska...not necessarily because the law says specifically that a nine year old can't drive...but because the licensing regulations state that only a 16 year old can.
You need a license to get married. Nebraska reserves the right to license marriages as we see fit.
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11-25-2008, 11:58 AM
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What would have happened if 2 men would have gone down to the courthouse 50 years ago to get married?
The fact that no law existed to prevent it doesn't necessarily mean it's automatically a "right".
Is it legal for me to hunt polar bears in Scottsbluff? Or is it just one of those things that was unheard of?
Driving would be a good example, too. A nine year old cannot drive in Nebraska...not necessarily because the law says specifically that a nine year old can't drive...but because the licensing regulations state that only a 16 year old can.
You need a license to get married. Nebraska reserves the right to license marriages as we see fit.
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Exactly, you need a license to get married, that makes it a civil right because its gov't. And because of the separation of church and state no one religion can dictate. They're Christian churches who would marry gays, so this violates separation of church and state as well as gov't not to be supporting one religious view.
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11-25-2008, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfOmaha
Exactly, you need a license to get married, that makes it a civil right because its gov't. And because of the separation of church and state no one religion can dictate. They're Christian churches who would marry gays, so this violates separation of church and state as well as gov't not to be supporting one religious view.
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Huh?
First, can you show me a constitutional separation of church and state?
Second, churches can marry whomever they choose to. But, those are not legal marriages unless the couple receives a marriage license first.
I think the people of Nebraska have spoken. They don't want gay marriage. Apparently, that makes the majority of Nebraska "haters." Time to move on...
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11-25-2008, 12:50 PM
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Huh?
First, can you show me a constitutional separation of church and state?
Second, churches can marry whomever they choose to. But, those are not legal marriages unless the couple receives a marriage license first.
I think the people of Nebraska have spoken. They don't want gay marriage. Apparently, that makes the majority of Nebraska "haters." Time to move on...
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Oh we are moving on alright. We will be moving with the protests, the boycotts, what ever we need to do will it. You may want to stay home. That way you wont have to see gays using one right they still have.
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11-25-2008, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IsThisOneTaken?
Huh?
First, can you show me a constitutional separation of church and state?
Second, churches can marry whomever they choose to. But, those are not legal marriages unless the couple receives a marriage license first.
I think the people of Nebraska have spoken. They don't want gay marriage. Apparently, that makes the majority of Nebraska "haters." Time to move on...
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At one time the majority of people supported slavery.
At one time the majority of people supported putting the Japanese in labor camps.
At one time the majority of people thought blacks should be relegated to 2nd class citizenship.
Just because the majority of people have done something doesn't make it right.
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11-25-2008, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DTO Luv
At one time the majority of people supported slavery.
At one time the majority of people supported putting the Japanese in labor camps.
At one time the majority of people thought blacks should be relegated to 2nd class citizenship.
Just because the majority of people have done something doesn't make it right.
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Every he asks for something we provide it. They'll never get it.
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11-25-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DTO Luv
At one time the majority of people supported slavery.
At one time the majority of people supported putting the Japanese in labor camps.
At one time the majority of people thought blacks should be relegated to 2nd class citizenship.
Just because the majority of people have done something doesn't make it right.
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Doesn't always make it wrong, either. In fact, the majority of the time, it doesn't.
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