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Old 11-29-2008, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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I see, since some Christians insult gays, you want to insult the entire group of people who share a particular belief. Wow, talk about a double standard.

Its not a double standard, its about repealing hateful legislation.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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However, like I said before, insulting Christianity will get you no where with most of Nebraska, but you must learn to speak in our terms if you want to convince people. (IE you need a religious leader to support you.)
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:52 PM
 
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Its not a double standard, its about repealing hateful legislation.
You want to repeal "hateful" legislation, yet you will refer to roughly 80% of the population of the US with hateful terms? Not a good way to win anybody to your cause. You want to denounce bigotry and yet want to make bigoted comments about a particular faith? That's definitely a double standard!
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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However, like I said before, insulting Christianity will get you no where with most of Nebraska, but you must learn to speak in our terms if you want to convince people. (IE you need a religious leader to support you.)
We do have support from a few religious leaders. When the time is right, you'll find out.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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You want to repeal "hateful" legislation, yet you will refer to roughly 80% of the population of the US with hateful terms? Not a good way to win anybody to your cause. You want to denounce bigotry and yet want to make bigoted comments about a particular faith? That's definitely a double standard!
Your stat of 80% is a complete overstatement. Initiative 416 passed with only 70% and that was 8 years ago. Times have changed. Obama's win in District 2 is strong indication of that.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:58 AM
 
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Folks.. Please respond to the Original thread and do not attack ANYONE for their opinions. Stay on topic. Do not start flame wars. Keep this thread about NE..

Be civil, no personal attacks, flaming, or insults
. We may attack ideas (politely) but we do not attack the speaker of the idea. Be careful with your words, there is a point where being direct crosses a line into blunt, in-your-face hostility. Please, report bad posts instead of engaging in flame wars on the boards.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:49 AM
 
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Your stat of 80% is a complete overstatement. Initiative 416 passed with only 70% and that was 8 years ago. Times have changed. Obama's win in District 2 is strong indication of that.
80% of the population is a reference to the number of Americans who claim to be followers of Christ--not the number of Nebraskans who voted for I416. It is not a reference to Nebraskans who voted for Obama--that has nothing to do with the issue here. Obama supporters are not necessarily pro-gay or anti-Christian, so there is no credibility in that comparison. Obviously many Christians had to vote for Obama.


Actually, the percentage of Christians in the US is 81% (survey data), so I was pretty close:
WikiAnswers - How many Christians are there in the USA

Now, of course, not all of those Christians follow the same standards, are at different points in their faith walk, etc, but you are still painting an entire population with a bold brush. Some Christian faiths hate homosexuals, most denounce the lifestyle/sin but love the person, and a few are OK with homosexuality.

If a heterosexual were to refer to all homosexuals by a stereotype, you'd scream foul. Well, that's what we're doing here with your stereotyping and insulting of Christians.

Again, if you want to garner support for your cause, you had better try to enlist the support of 81% (probably a higher percentage in Nebraska) of the population, rather than insult them and foster an "us vs. them" battle.
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Old 11-30-2008, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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And the number of Christians is 90% for Nebraskans.
Nebraska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:47 AM
 
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Is this a political forum? I didn't think it was supposed to be.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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How about we make "marriage" strictly a church issue, and "civil unions" are what the government gets involved in for legal and financial matters only?

Any two legal adults could get a civil union, and any church could marry whomever they choose (and not marry whomever they choose as well). Take "marriage" away from the government completely and let the religious institutions do whatever they feel is right?

Seems to me this would make everyone happy and equal.

Last edited by kellygreen; 11-30-2008 at 09:15 PM.. Reason: formatting
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