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Old 05-11-2009, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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I don't see any reason why gays should not be allowed to do that.

Would the gay community find it acceptable to drop the "marriage" part and call it a domestic partnership or some such thing? It makes no difference to me personally, but some of the misguided religious zealots might be a little more accepting of that.
As the gay community has learned nationwide, domestic partnerships don't get the benefits marriage receives! Once again, separate is NOT equal!!!
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Old 05-16-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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He's back!! He's back!!!!
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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Yes, the gay guy is back! I still have to see a legitimate reason why gays cannot get married. The fact is gay marriage = religious freedom, because there are churches out there that will marry gays, but the gov't says they can't. The conservative fundies also spread the myth that if gay marriage is legal churches will have to marry same-sex couples. This is also not true. The court rulings in California and Iowa specifically stated that their decisions would not force churches to marry same-sex couples, yet the conservative fundies tell lies about the issue. Its sad that churches, like the Catholic, Mormons, Evangelists, etc preach that lying is a sin, yet turn around and lie to gain political momentum and power.
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I have a few questions here.
Older people who do not want to lose their departed spouse's social security often find a minister to marry them, but the union is never reported to the state officials. Why don't ministers who support this do the same? Or, do they? Wouldn't this start a reform of laws, pertaining to freedom of choice and individual rights, if both those who were gay and the older folks 'came out of the closet', so to speak?

I don't really care which consenting adults get married. I don't think it is or should be anyone's business. But the laws that constrain both older people and gays from following their spiritual and social inclinations are many; can't be on the spouse's insurance, can't have a slice of their retirement or SS if they pass, can't legally inherit without a will, can't make legal decisions for them if they are incapacitated... it seems to me that if folks in the same situations combined forces and made statements, they would have more of a vote and a voice. Togetherness and a common goal work better than sneaking or shouting, IMHO.
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Older people who do not want to lose their departed spouse's social security
That rule was changed a few years ago, SCGranny. Older couples can now get legally married and not lose a deceased spouse's SS. Not sure what the cut off age is but I think it's 65.
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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TY Cunucu Beach; but either the word hasn't gotten out to the older folks or maybe there are restrictions per income levels, etc? Because my mother got married 3 years ago (she was 84, he was 78) and they were told that she would lose hers, he would lose his... They've both passed now so it doesn't matter to me or to them but...
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Old 05-21-2009, 05:43 AM
 
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TY Cunucu Beach; but either the word hasn't gotten out to the older folks or maybe there are restrictions per income levels, etc? Because my mother got married 3 years ago (she was 84, he was 78) and they were told that she would lose hers, he would lose his... They've both passed now so it doesn't matter to me or to them but...
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Don't know how long this new rule has been in effect but the cut off age is 60 for a person to remarry and not lose benefits.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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He's back!! He's back!!!!
I haven't been on the NE board for over a month,busy with lots of things, and yes, the first thing I see this morning: He is back!!!!! At least it gives us something to talk about.

Nita
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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That rule was changed a few years ago, SCGranny. Older couples can now get legally married and not lose a deceased spouse's SS. Not sure what the cut off age is but I think it's 65.
good news, I certainly didn't know that. Of course I don't plan to be a widow soon and I don't plan on re-marriage either, but that is great news, it is about time..

Nita
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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good news, I certainly didn't know that. Of course I don't plan to be a widow soon and I don't plan on re-marriage either, but that is great news, it is about time..

Nita
What would be great news is if 2 hot dudes were allowed to marry each other. Or 2 hot chicks were allowed to marry each other. They changed the laws for seniors, one of the biggest groups most opposed to gay marriages. Time for some consideration for gay rights!!!
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