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Old 09-24-2020, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE
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"I do have one political question though about NE. Is it solid Trump or are there an amount of Never Trump conservatives as well, or am i living in the past asking about the NT people? I have been libertarian and have liked movements like the Free state project. Is NE libertarian at all also? I am just so damn sick of sides, Biden or Trump and would like something different. Both stink to me. If I had to pick one I dont even know who I would. Biden id imagine, but I would want a 3rd if it was there. Trump is a total moron though. So where do I fit based on political opinion? I dont like politics though, i just hate the nonsense circus and this is part of the reason Portland pisses me off. Im so not on the extremes."

It's a mix. If you look at the NE election results you'll get an idea. For instance, last election Lancaster County (where Lincoln is) voted for Clinton (and Obama in 08, but not 12), and part of Omaha voted for Clinton. The rest of the state solidly votes for whoever has the R behind their name. Omaha has a Republican mayor, and Lincoln's mayor is a Democrat (albeit likely a more moderate pro-business Democrat). In rural areas, I think now there is a mix --- I know some farmers who think the President is the greatest ever; and others who said they gave him a try voting for him in 2016 (mostly because they hated Clinton) and now say he's a complete failure. In the more urban areas, you'll see more of a mix of "vote democrat" signs and Trump flags and some trucks driving around with bumper stickers and such. But you'll likewise see other cars with the opposite bumper stickers (they are just less noticeable).

I'd say that in most areas, it's pretty much live and let live. I live in southeast Lincoln and most people don't discuss politics. The statewide landscape is pretty much solid Republican, which I always thought was odd considering taxes are so high in Nebraska.
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Old 09-24-2020, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Portland Oregon area
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"I do have one political question though about NE. Is it solid Trump or are there an amount of Never Trump conservatives as well, or am i living in the past asking about the NT people? I have been libertarian and have liked movements like the Free state project. Is NE libertarian at all also? I am just so damn sick of sides, Biden or Trump and would like something different. Both stink to me. If I had to pick one I dont even know who I would. Biden id imagine, but I would want a 3rd if it was there. Trump is a total moron though. So where do I fit based on political opinion? I dont like politics though, i just hate the nonsense circus and this is part of the reason Portland pisses me off. Im so not on the extremes."

It's a mix. If you look at the NE election results you'll get an idea. For instance, last election Lancaster County (where Lincoln is) voted for Clinton (and Obama in 08, but not 12), and part of Omaha voted for Clinton. The rest of the state solidly votes for whoever has the R behind their name. Omaha has a Republican mayor, and Lincoln's mayor is a Democrat (albeit likely a more moderate pro-business Democrat). In rural areas, I think now there is a mix --- I know some farmers who think the President is the greatest ever; and others who said they gave him a try voting for him in 2016 (mostly because they hated Clinton) and now say he's a complete failure. In the more urban areas, you'll see more of a mix of "vote democrat" signs and Trump flags and some trucks driving around with bumper stickers and such. But you'll likewise see other cars with the opposite bumper stickers (they are just less noticeable).

I'd say that in most areas, it's pretty much live and let live. I live in southeast Lincoln and most people don't discuss politics. The statewide landscape is pretty much solid Republican, which I always thought was odd considering taxes are so high in Nebraska.

Well about that last part, that amazes me also. Its almost like people live like a Bernie Sanders state with the high taxes and stuff. Even Warren Buffett too, hes like the one who rides coach when hes a billionaire so some spirit of helping people or being down with the common man must exist in those parts to some degree.



In some liberal states or solid dem ones, a lot of people could give 2 damns about the rest of the people in their state but on the front will put BLM signs up and think the job is done like nothing else is expected.. like in Oregon. A place seen as leftist and commie.


The people of Nebraska though, despite the r, seem to live out what Bernie is all about. and whats also shocking is the amount of stars from the state too. Seeing its not TX, NE has quite a few who made fame. I like seeing stuff like that. I like to know where I want to move to has had some vibrant personalities come out of it.



Live and let live seems to be the vibe also. So people wont just come up to u and tell, if u move to NE, dont vote democrat ? In some places that kinda thing is more common. Like u tell someone oh, i wanna move to TX, well dont vote democrat and u can. NE keeps quiet about a lot so I wouldnt know if people do or not.


I wanted G W Bush to win in 2000. I was in a blue state disgusted, I wanted to move to the south so I watched CMT and tried to get connected with that good old way. I didnt like seeijng wiggas and hip hop culture and what I saw as the jooz pulling the strings if u know what I mean lol.. A lot has changed though too, I also came out as an MtF trans person. and in a liberal metro I still dont fit in. The place u would think to be meeting like minds but dont. None of the neighbors talk also. Its so distant 4 me. I like it more nice than that tbh. I hate feeling like its me vs them all the time.
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Old 09-24-2020, 10:06 PM
 
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Well about that last part, that amazes me also. Its almost like people live like a Bernie Sanders state with the high taxes and stuff. Even Warren Buffett too, hes like the one who rides coach when hes a billionaire so some spirit of helping people or being down with the common man must exist in those parts to some degree.



In some liberal states or solid dem ones, a lot of people could give 2 damns about the rest of the people in their state but on the front will put BLM signs up and think the job is done like nothing else is expected.. like in Oregon. A place seen as leftist and commie.


The people of Nebraska though, despite the r, seem to live out what Bernie is all about. and whats also shocking is the amount of stars from the state too. Seeing its not TX, NE has quite a few who made fame. I like seeing stuff like that. I like to know where I want to move to has had some vibrant personalities come out of it. That crack about the"Joos" pretty much tells me that you're an ignorant bigot.



Live and let live seems to be the vibe also. So people wont just come up to u and tell, if u move to NE, dont vote democrat ? In some places that kinda thing is more common. Like u tell someone oh, i wanna move to TX, well dont vote democrat and u can. NE keeps quiet about a lot so I wouldnt know if people do or not.


I wanted G W Bush to win in 2000. I was in a blue state disgusted, I wanted to move to the south so I watched CMT and tried to get connected with that good old way. I didnt like seeijng wiggas and hip hop culture and what I saw as the jooz pulling the strings if u know what I mean lol.. A lot has changed though too, I also came out as an MtF trans person. and in a liberal metro I still dont fit in. The place u would think to be meeting like minds but dont. None of the neighbors talk also. Its so distant 4 me. I like it more nice than that tbh. I hate feeling like its me vs them all the time.
Nebraska has some of the highest taxes in the country, especially property tax, and it's an overwhelmingly Republican State. You can thank the evil Democrats for programs like Medicare and Social Security, which you will gladly sign up for when the time comes, if you haven't already. And don't think those farmers are going to return those nice fat government checks they get, especially soybean farmers. Nebraska also gives out government money to private developers in the form of Tax Increment Financing, more than any other state. Nebraska is a Communist/Socialist state, and it's run by Republicans! That crack about the "joos" tells me that you're an ignorant bigot, and anti-American to boot. Don't ever fly the American flag again because you have no idea what it stands for. If you have a problem with the "Joos", I'd suggest you move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, problem solved.
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Old 09-25-2020, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Pueblo CO
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I've considered both states, I chose Nebraska if I do move to one of them due to the mass influx of people due to come into Texas from CA and I like much how life in Omaha could be, and how it can get out of the plandemic than Portland will. I feel social chances go up, despite colder weather in NE. I still seek for Portlands polar opposite as I cant stand being here. Enjoing cit life withoiut the high t
raffic is a bonus to me. I was going to go with Dallas but I didnt, was told to not since its gotten a lot more crowded overnight in Covid. As nice of a metro as it looks like, Omaha looks to have some of the same stuff tbh.


The thing NE doesnt have a lot of that I want, but nor does Oregon, is diversity. I would like a mixed place for the most part. Thats what was drawing me to Dallas but if the populace as it is cool, it will make up for it or I could just move to N Omaha. I DO NOT want West Omaha though in the research I have done. I dont like too whitebread. Im not a liberal but when I was in a diverse environment, I did like it better I wont lie. I have also lived in FL which alwas seem to not disappoint when it comes to wanting the diversity, even if in a whiter part. I was seeking some of that when I wanted to go to TX as well. I like good food, diff people, nice people, a good combo of those things when I look at a place to live. So it looks like its N or South Omaha, I hear CB is not what I want plus its in Iowa. I decided I would visit Iowa but make home Nebraska and so far that dont seem like a bad choice.



I have Lincoln on the list but its 2nd to Omaha at this time and has been.


I do have one political question though about NE. Is it solid Trump or are there an amount of Never Trump conservatives as well, or am i living in the past asking about the NT people? I have been libertarian and have liked movements like the Free state project. Is NE libertarian at all also? I am just so damn sick of sides, Biden or Trump and would like something different. Both stink to me. If I had to pick one I dont even know who I would. Biden id imagine, but I would want a 3rd if it was there. Trump is a total moron though. So where do I fit based on political opinion? I dont like politics though, i just hate the nonsense circus and this is part of the reason Portland pisses me off. Im so not on the extremes.
Your question has elicited much blather here (next page) and if UR "Libertarian" thinking then either state would do. BUT if you want some real 'honesty' read "What's the Matter With Kansas" by Thomas Frank and a newer book just out is "Arguing With Zombies" by Paul Krugman, Nobel economist. Both are by progressives so neither will be accepted by conservatives which is the SOLID nature of the Midwest. Both books are a clue into the psyche of MOST people in the heartland who vote as their families have voted for decades without any change in their thinking.

You live in a Blue state now that "stinks" but I was there for one year and TRUMP picked the wrong state to unleash his Feds against protestors who believe (albeit some were trucked in) the notion of the "People rule": the last state of "home-rule." "The Founders" never envisioned a 2-party system..."my way or the highway" and what this so-called democracy is ripe for decline...not giving one 'crumb' for our children.

So pick your Blue or Red state in the (Divided) States of America. You asked a question.

Just don't tell anyone to "vote" as I did yesterday: they may tell you who they will vote for which I really did not need to KNOW!
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Old 12-22-2020, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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It is extremely difficult to make friends in Texas if you were not born/raised there and if you are from a non-southern state.
Um, no. Sorry lol but compared to Nebraska (or even other places like Virginia) it is far easier to make friends in Texas. Yes, the dyed-in-the-wool "My-mother-drove-400-miles-so-I-could-be-born-in-Texas" Texans are only interested in the people who think (and oftentimes look) like them. But the thing about Texas is there are so many transplants that you'll find your tribe.

I went to school in Nebraska and lived there the better part of 5 years. People are of course people and so anywhere's going to be a mixed bag, but the fact of the matter is that there ARE certain generalizations you can make about places. In Nebraska, I found the people more easily offendable and extremely f***ing insular. I wouldn't even consider myself the "typical" loud Texan and I KNOW I rubbed a lot of the people there the wrong way.
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Old 12-22-2020, 04:51 PM
 
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Have lived rural' in each state for extended periods.

I find the above is accurate.

N people seem to cap their pride at college football.

There is no cap to Texas Pride. +/-

Rural Texas?, better be BORN there (and have family roots to 1830's) Then you are less likely to be a 'newcomer'. Lots of very insular ethnic communities. 'Friendly enough' as long as you are just passing through.

Both states have significant taxes (Property and HEAVY school tax in Texas, no income tax... RENT don't buy a home.)
I spent six weeks in Hastings, NE over forty years ago, and was quite impressed with the town and the people in it (at least, those I met). In researching states to retire to (IL just no longer cuts it), I was a little shocked at how high the taxes are in NE, including the estate tax. So my question is, is what does one actually get back from the state in the form of services, in exchange for the higher taxes? Is it a good safety net for the poor, or do they have really well-maintained roads, a good public health system, great schools, or what? I did see that in Hastings, they have about four public swimming pools in a town of what, maybe 20,000 people? So that might be one area (public recreation). But what else? Note: for those interested in WWII history, read up on the NAD (Naval Ammunition Depot) outside of Hastings.

With respect to Texas, I don't have much experience, other than driving through the panhandle on my way from Chicago to Phoenix in January once, and seeing a bumper sticker that said, "Freeze a Yankee in the Dark". I still laugh about that one. I've heard the Hill Country is very pretty, and would probably like the weather of the Panhandle overall: mild winters, dry, and a less severe summer than areas further south. Gotta love a state that has so much respect for 2A, although Nebraska probably isn't that far behind, since so much of it is rural. Also for WWII historians: Fredericksburg is the home of Adm. Chester Nimitz, and hosts the WWII Museum of the Pacific War (I may have botched the name a bit). They're going to get my Mom and Dad's WWII stuff one of these days.

Looking at the climate arguments, I wonder if one wouldn't be better off simply splitting the difference between NE and TX by moving to Wichita, LOL.

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Old 12-25-2020, 03:28 PM
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Location: Hillsboro Beach
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Um, no. Sorry lol but compared to Nebraska (or even other places like Virginia) it is far easier to make friends in Texas. Yes, the dyed-in-the-wool "My-mother-drove-400-miles-so-I-could-be-born-in-Texas" Texans are only interested in the people who think (and oftentimes look) like them. But the thing about Texas is there are so many transplants that you'll find your tribe.

I went to school in Nebraska and lived there the better part of 5 years. People are of course people and so anywhere's going to be a mixed bag, but the fact of the matter is that there ARE certain generalizations you can make about places. In Nebraska, I found the people more easily offendable and extremely f***ing insular. I wouldn't even consider myself the "typical" loud Texan and I KNOW I rubbed a lot of the people there the wrong way.
I do not know why people from all over the states of the American Union complain of Texas and Texans. I was not born in USA. I am American very legally by naturalization since many years ago. Never been in Texas. I HAVE NO PROBLEM with Texans. Actually one of my very few friends in USA is a Texan guy from Houston. We know each other for 15 years. A very sincere and genuine American, very patriotic, and to my eyes a TRUE AMERICAN that I would love to see many of them like him in California, New York, Chicago, Seattle, and many other areas of this beloved Nation where is a risk to display and American flag because might be offensive for many people.
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Old 12-26-2020, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Pueblo CO
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Nebraska and Texas? Both RED states as the recent election points out. No difference.
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Old 12-26-2020, 08:54 PM
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California, New York, Chicago, Seattle, and many other areas of this beloved Nation where is a risk to display and American flag because might be offensive for many people.
New York is full of American flags. In front of homes, businesses, lining main streets on the light poles. Even in the most liberal areas. Just more propaganda on how only the citizens of red states are "real" Americans.






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Old 12-26-2020, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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I do not know why people from all over the states of the American Union complain of Texas and Texans. I was not born in USA. I am American very legally by naturalization since many years ago. Never been in Texas. I HAVE NO PROBLEM with Texans. Actually one of my very few friends in USA is a Texan guy from Houston. We know each other for 15 years. A very sincere and genuine American, very patriotic, and to my eyes a TRUE AMERICAN that I would love to see many of them like him in California, New York, Chicago, Seattle, and many other areas of this beloved Nation where is a risk to display and American flag because might be offensive for many people.
I'm sorry?
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