Where to live on raw land with out septic (fence, property)
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Look, I get what you want to do. But you just can't do it for 10k and be safe and comfortable. If you want to get a tiny little trailer and live in it, well, whatever floats your boat. Heck the trailer will cost you something around 5k by itself. The land will be at least 2500 and then you've got your improvements to think about. A 1500 gal water tank isn't free. A fence around your homestead, your solar panels, lighting, your composting toilet (it's not a composite toilet), at least a small shed to put your tools into (you will have at least a shovel to be able to spread your compost around won't you?), you will need to think about at least one firearm, etc.
I have to say that it doesn't look like you've done any research at all. And what the hey, if you are going to sell your house in S.F. for a million dollars, what's the harm with putting a little more than 10k into a place to stay for the rest of your life. For that matter, if I had the little home by the beach that you say you have, I'd just stay there and forget about the extremely hot (110+ in the summer) and dry (as in no water available) desert. If you want to live in a bug out place in the desert with no neighbors, more power to you, it will take more than 10k to make it though.
And you do realize that while you are out touring the nation, someone will most likely come onto your property and vandalize your cozy little home, don't you? Maybe a few bullet holes in the solar panels...
By the way, I don't play golf and I don't live in a KB tract home.
Thanks Vegas John. That's good info that I can use. I don't know how to multiple quote so I have to respond message by message until I learn.
I'm not ready to live in my beach house with white sand and warm blue water just yet full time. I am an American and this will always be my home.
I'm thinking of 5 acres or less because of the kids and relatives. I have worked hard all my life and have been lucky. But I'm sure most of the posters in this board that have good kids in their '20's have never had a job. All the kids do now is walk around and look at his little hand-held device and move their thumbs up and down, side to side. When they're in an elevator, crossing a street, eating, that's all they seem to do; and send useless information to people back and forth. I'm not going to subsidize this life style for the rest of their lives.
If I, at least, have 5 acres of less in the desert, and the younger generation cannot hang, they can crush on my property for free.
Where I live, I see so many families and co-workers losing everything. Both adults laid off. They use their severance package, 401k and credit cards to continue their life style and continue to pay health care for their kids who are in their '20's. You've got to be kidding. When I was in my '20's my parents did not have health care on me. Now, a year has gone by, their 401k is gone, their severance pay is gone, their savings is gone, their credit cards are maxed out, they cannot use them anymore, and they cannot even pay their rent or mortgage. Oh yeah, I forgot, they cannot even get a job stocking shelves at Walmart. They're toast. If they have 5 acres somewhere and some survival skills they could have saved their money for a rainy day instead of subsidize their living until they're financially ruined.
I have CCW's for the states of Nevada, Utah and Florida. My home state where I was born and raised will not CCW's to peasants like me.
Last year I saw all the low housing prices in Vegas and was going to pay cash or finance, I'm not sure which one yet, and it turned into a big scam. Those $85k price tags were short sales, reminded me of the housing market in San Francisco in the '90's.
I don't need much. I'm here to learn and soak in the advice. I admit I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to this. In California, you can't even change your curtain without getting any permit. So when I heard of a septic tank, I was already thinking $15k which I'm not going to pay. Thanks to this board I'm learning about that, and that's something I could do if I have to.
I can pay more than $10k. I just want to keep this price tag low on the board. If I put $20k, people on message board try to double it.
How does this plan sound? 20' - 22' travel trailer from the late '80's to '90's that is in good shape, never lived in, rarely used, taken care of by adults that do not need it anymore. Next, I need solar panels to run lights, tv, couple lap tops.
Then I was thinking of getting a trailer, maybe 8 x 16, maybe enclosed, maybe not. I was thinking maybe building a shed on the travel trailer if it's not enclosed.
Next, I need water. I will like to have at least 1500 gallons on my compound at all times.
When I go to my tropical paradise I was thinking I can break down the solar panels, water tank, bring it to an RV storage lot, park it for a few months until I get back.
Oh yeah, I forgot, the composite toilet. I don't want the toilet in the shower stall that I see on travel trailers, they will have to be separate. So I would like to use this composite toilet, or travel toilet, I don't know, help me out. And I want to dispose everything properly.
One of my pet peeves is I do want to take long showers. But I have to change plan on that.
Where can I buy some land that I can do something like this? Where the animals are people, will not attack me.
I worked hard all my life and I want to take a rest. I want to sleep in for the first time in my life, wake up, exercise, do 5 hrs of online surfing, watch a movie online, exercise again and go to bed.
Oh yeah, I need a wi-fi, sky's the limit on price, almost. I can go over $10k but I want to have a budget within reason.
I did find land in Colorado 2 acers for 3k an I would have right to use his well for water an could do all the things I want to do. But it is a remote area with not much to do there.
I would like to be one day drive to LA, SD, or SF.
Do you know any areas like this around the Ut, AZ NV Boarder. That is a little less rough. You scared me a few post earler about water, wood an one hour till I reach a paved road. My kids in there 20,s who are good kids an smart. but all they do is look at this little device in there palm. They think they are Einstein. will never make if they fell on hard times. I am sick of San Francisco an would like to be closer to SD or LA.
I have never been to the AZ boarder. whats going on over there.
I have been traveling for a long time an I compare everything to what I can buy in other places. I can buy that watermelon for 1/3 the price if I was there or there.
I like the warm weather more than the cold. I think i fit in better in Las Vegas than Frisco except if I ran into Vegas John J/K!!!!!!!
Any place close to Las Vegas.... Goldfield was a good location not far from everything I was looking for seems a little remote.. I would have to go there in person to see.
Pretty sure dedicated satellite internet (with dish) runs around $200-400/month for a decent-bandwidth connection.
That doesnt include satellite tv, which I would guess is another $50-100/mo.
Also, not sure how long electronics will last in 100+ degree heat and no a/c.
When I lived in MN I had 15 acres north of Minneapolis as a weekend getaway, at the intersection of two rivers. On weekends I lived the "Mother
Earth" lifestyle: no electricity/telephone, no running water, no septic, no hand-pumped well either! It was sheer heaven, and I returned to my 38th floor apt. on Sunday nights. Full-time? No way! I sold it because the county was insisting everyone have septic installed to the tune of $6k. Time to sell! No more out-houses!
And, incredibly, half-mile away, cows/pigs/chickens on a farm are relieving themselves all over the place, and I, as a human, can't relieve myself on my 15 acres where I ususually relieved myself on my compost bins.????
When I moved to Las Vegas, I missed having a weekend getaway place, so I looked at some property in southern Utah, Iron/Washington counties, and I ran into the same roadblock I ran away from in MN, they want the infrastructure in place. And I had no intention of drilling a well, as I was just going to carry enough water for weekend use.
Yet, in an irrigated valley, near where I wanted to purchase land, there was a huge area with cows, relieving themselves all over the place. Go figure!
IMO, it's all about money to enrich the counties, they can appraise your property at a higher rate, more tax revenue for them. Gee whiz! Before I sold my "Eden" in MN they were throttling me with $1k in taxes a year, what would they have taxed me if I had put in a septic system?
Pretty sure dedicated satellite internet (with dish) runs around $200-400/month for a decent-bandwidth connection.
That doesnt include satellite tv, which I would guess is another $50-100/mo.
Nah, we had satellite internet, and Satellite TV (two different systems, two different dishes) and the total was still well under $100.00. A hint, mount an infrared spot light focused on each dish. When it snows, turn it on, twill melt the snow and keep your reception going. Otherwise you have to send the kids up on the roof to clean the dish(es) every hour or two. They like it because they like the TV and internet, and they like doing flips off the roof onto the snow, when done cleaning.
I know this is an old thread, but I'd like to mention that I've currently got a forest service volunteer crew (of 6) camping in the wilderness in Southern Illinois. They're going through 120 gallons of water a week, and it's only in the 90s with 50% humidity.
You're going to need a lot of water, and without a well, you've got no place to get it.
Read "Into the Wild" for some good background on what happens to people when they strike out into inhospitable habitat without being prepared. Nevada's not all that different from Alaska: You mess up, and you die.
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