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Old 02-26-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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I was reading the review-journal and came across this piece:
Struggling just to get by - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com

An Associated Press story datelined Carson City last week spelled out the concerns of some legislators that changes to state employee health insurance costs and benefits might be onerous to lower-salaried workers.

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This poor family siphoning $163,902/year from the State has to pay an extra $1,600 for their chubby kid's insulin shots. How tragic! Maybe if they didn't shove so much Captain Crunch down his throat, he wouldn't have Diabetes today...

Anyway, my question is are these Govt workers out of touch with reality, or just liars?

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Old 02-26-2011, 11:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Atlas1337 View Post
I was reading the review-journal and came across this piece:
Struggling just to get by - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com

An Associated Press story datelined Carson City last week spelled out the concerns of some legislators that changes to state employee health insurance costs and benefits might be onerous to lower-salaried workers.

To support this concern, there was testimony from a tearful Susie Giurlani. She and her husband are both state employees whose pay has been reduced by mandated furloughs since 2009. Because deductibles in the state health insurance plan will be raised from $1,600 to $3,800, she testified the family will have to bear greater expenses for her son's insulin to treat his diabetes. Total out-of-pocket costs will be capped at $7,800 for a family.
"We are not the rich state employees that some people think we are," she told the joint Assembly Ways and Means and Senate Finance subcommittee.

"I'm punished because I chose to get a job with the state, 30 years ago, believing that I'd have reasonable health coverage," AP quoted her as saying through tears, adding she's "having a harder time in my life than when I was single."

On the Nevada Policy Research Institute website called TransparentNevada, her 2009 pay is listed as $70,213.02 and his [husband's] as $93,689.45.

According to the DETR figures, in 2009 the statewide average wage was $41,464.

This poor family siphoning $163,902/year from the State has to pay an extra $1,600 for their chubby kid's insulin shots. How tragic! Maybe if they didn't shove so much Captain Crunch down his throat, he wouldn't have Diabetes today...

Anyway, my question is are these Govt workers out of touch with reality, or just liars?
I think you're going to see a lot of people throwing last ditch efforts to garner sympathy when the sympathy well has run dry. In this instance she is definitely out of touch. 70k isn't over the top for 30 years service by any means but it also isn't anywhere near something to be crying about with raising health costs. People all over the place have had enough with reckless government idiocy and we're only getting started.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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All I can say to these govt workers is welcome to the reality of 2011. It's about time they get a dose of what it's like living in the real world.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 12:20 AM
 
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I'm not necessarily complaining about her pay, just the fact that she feels paying an extra $1600 for her own family's health care some how equates to 'struggling to get by' when they make $160,000 a year -- 100% of which is coming from many tax payers that are ACTUALLY struggling.

That shows me that they are completely detached from reality. Or just malicious liars, frauds, and so on.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 12:50 AM
 
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Just wow.

When my husband had a job that paid only around 2K a month, we had to forego the company's insurance. Insurance monthly payment for a child was over 625 dollars a month with a deductible of 450 dollars. For DH/me and child, there'd be no income coming at all and we'd still have to pay more out of pocket. My husband and I would've GLADLY take their troubles.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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I hate to say it but most government workers in her pay range are out of touch with the people they govern. She has no clue what it is like to live on a real salary of 30 or 40 k. I bet she spends more on her clothes in a month than some of us make working 40 hours a week.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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Used to be people took government work out of a sense of service and the security it offered, now it seems like they get paid more than the private sector.

What she really meant to say was that she had become accustomed to a certain standard of living and that it was hard for her to adjust.

Try going from making 130k with great union insurance to making 0 and having 0 insurance lady.

I think many of these government workers should be hung for treason.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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While I get great health care coverage (100% free) the cost to get it and the amount of money I currently live on are not so good. It took a stroke and a medical retirement from the military to get the insurance, and I am currently make just over $13,000 a year income. If it wasn't for my wife's military retirement and the fact we saved and saved for the future of our family we would be toast.

The big problem with most folks today is no one ever considers the "What will we do if?" questions, and when that big "IF" rolls around it becomes a situation they are unable to handle. Plan ahead folks, a little pain today prevents a whole heck of a lot of pain tomorrow.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Kailua Kona, HI
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She ought to try having back surgery, going on TDI for 6 months which is 58% of your salary, being terminated in the middle of that and having to COBRA your insurance to the tune of over $700 a month, and still not being able to work after that TDI ran out.
 
Old 02-27-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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Reached at the desk of Sandra Giurlani in the Department of Employment, Training & Rehabilitation (DETR) on a recent afternoon, answering the phone by identifying herself as Susie, Ms. Giurlani confirmed she had testified and proceeded to explain how much her family has had to cut back in order to survive, forgoing vacations and home repairs. She confirmed her husband is John Giurlani, a Department of Public Safety captain.
She actually said that with a straight face?
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