10 acre lots in Elko (Las Vegas, Paradise: vacation, lease, illegal)

[Landlvr71]

I heard access is an issue in this Part of Nevada, If you dont have road frontage to your lot you might be walking to the lot or having a showdown with an angry neighbor. Is this true?
I want to buy land in Elko or Winnemucca area for a vacation retreat.
I apreciate any help

[Tressa]

Originally Posted by Landlvr71

I heard access is an issue in this Part of Nevada, If you dont have road frontage to your lot you might be walking to the lot or having a showdown with an angry neighbor. Is this true?
I want to buy land in Elko or Winnemucca area for a vacation retreat.
I apreciate any help

you should know before you purchase if you have access, I know that as far as myself I wouldn't give you free access through my land. Sorry don't mean to be nasty, just realistic

[Landlvr71]

I was wondering about legal access i am sure every property has an easement of some sort, The E bay sellers will tell you to call the county and that all the lots are in a platted subdivision.
Almost all the lots for sale are not connected to a road so that must mean there is alot of junk land in Nevada.
That could be a problem for future buyers, Why would the county let the larger landowners subdivide and sell if it's not practical to get access to them?

[greatbasinguide]

First, why would you even think about buying land without researching access, water, clear title etc.
Second, I do not know the law in Nevada, but Nevada often follows California, and in California it is illegal to landlock property, which means that a neighboring land owner is required to allow access (which means, Tressa, that if the only access was across your land you would be required to grant an easement, annoying, but...)
Third, Junk land? what the heck is that?
Fourth, many of the small acreage parcels sold in Nevada are sold by a character named Bud Aldrich, make sure your contract is reviewed by an attorney[$100 down and $100 a month, for your own Nevada Ranch!]
Fifth, you won't get the mineral rights, if their are minerals under your place, life could get interesting.
Sixth, much of the cheap land is dead flat out in the sagebrush alkalai grabens, not very scenic, but cheap.
Seventh, you need to get out and walk every piece of land you are thinking of.
Eighth, cheap land can easily mean junky neighbors, fourteen wrecked big rigs on your propertyline,,.
Ninth, just north of Winnemucca is a subdivision called, I think, Paradise Ranchos, the locals call it Poverty Flats, for good reason.
Tenth, just because it has road access does not mean you have all weather access, the developer will blade a road, but when it rains the road will go to soup. You may spend thousands on road improvement.

DON'T BUY THE LAND SIGHT UNSEEN!!!!

If you are a bit hippydippy check this out;Sage Valley Community

[Landlvr71]

Thank you greatbasinguide that answered my question exactly, I can get access regardless, on another forum a guy told me a few stories about trouble with neighbors in the area and he had to walk to his lots from a dirt road.
I didnt word that correctly about Junk land, Of course it's not the land that is junk, I was comparing it to acreage here in Florida that is unbuildable swampland with no access.
The NV sellers on E bay seem good most come with Title insurance, Grant deed, Survey complete, Water is an issue though, I was worried about being land locked.
Any cool caves in the area? Can i pan gold in the Humbolt river?
Thanks for the help i might need a guide in the future.

[greatbasinguide]

Some more on your questions, the alkalai flats can be impassable in wet weather. Nevada is composed of basin and ranges the ranges are high and wild the basins stark and flat. You want to live in the ranges or the upslopes, you want to avoid the flats, the wind howls, the dust blows, the sun is a blowtorch. In the eastern part of the state [Snake Range among others] are great caves, some secret and some unknown, they are limestone ranges only partially explored, cavewise. Lehman caves in Great Basin National Park is the most well known, but, there is one that you can fly a Blackhawk helicopter into, it is that big!, another is an 80 foot rappel down into it.

Water is a big issue, water rights in Nevada are arcane and byzantine, make sure you walk the land, talk to the county, if there are water issues you must get them resolved before a penny changes hands. It is pretty darned easy to get excited and buy land that has no water under it.

Remember that Las Vegas is buying as many water rights as they can.

If you are a caver, I trust you are not an innocent hippy looking to get back to the land, therefore, I will give you a bit more info.... Elko County, or White Pine County, high and wild.

[Rondalw]

I did the reasearch when I bought land in Nevada and greatbasin is in target. No other land owner can legally lock you out of your land. The access has to be reasonable though. You should also offer to maintain the road and coordinate closely with the property owner(s). I know my property locks several other parcels and the road to the properties behind me is actually on my land. This is not a problem as where we are building is far enough away that the one or two vehicles that head up the road do not bother us.

[Nevada1]

Originally Posted by Rondalw

I did the reasearch when I bought land in Nevada and greatbasin is in target. No other land owner can legally lock you out of your land. The access has to be reasonable though. You should also offer to maintain the road and coordinate closely with the property owner(s). I know my property locks several other parcels and the road to the properties behind me is actually on my land. This is not a problem as where we are building is far enough away that the one or two vehicles that head up the road do not bother us.

I can't tell you how many title reports that I have reviewed that have a Schedule B exception stating "no legal access." I am a civil engineer and an attorney specializing in real property and water law. I need to warn you that you are playing with fire. Prescriptive easements and adverse possession are difficult to establish in Nevada and you will wind up in court.

The person buying in Elko needs to do their research and needs a real property attorney. Make sure it is someone who specializes in real property and do not hire someone from Elko. Look at Las Vegas or Reno and be careful, everyone claims to specialize in real property.

If you are looking for a small ranch, my father in law has a very large ranch in a beautiful valley and is considering subdividing part of the property as small ranchettes. Please feel free to email me if you are interested.

[Rondalw]

I did have an attorney for access issues. I was concerned about access to other parcels through my property. He said I could not restrict reasonable access. Not that I had to give free reign. I did all my other research on my own. I think someone is trying to sell his father's ranchettes and drum up business here with some scare tactics. Though I agree, do the research, check easements ( I had one from 1860 when the army had easement to build train and ammo depot. None ever materialized and I had it removed without an attorney).

Check your well data also. I had mine inspected and a determination of life and quality. It is at 425 feet and should last several years. The quality was okay but I am putting inline purifier.

[greatbasinguide]

Remember to get all the data before money changes hands.

This is a side note, but if it is land in Nevada, there is a very good chance my father in law surveyed it. My wife spent her child hood in pickups, airplanes and helicopters bouncing around Nevada while he surveyed ranches, mines and government land of various kinds. Which is why we have wound up with land in Nevada