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Old 05-28-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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We are looking at purchasing this plot. (It's Near Loveland/Winnemucca Nevada)
Can some one give me personal information about the area.
Weather in Summer and Winter?
Were looking for off the grid, so power is not so much an issue.
How is the soil, can you grow anything with a water supply from a well?
Could we plant trees and ect and ever have them grow?

Can you put a well down?

I understand its desert, but it still looks beautiful.
We need some help.

Heres the link:

http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-40-ACRE-NEVADA-LOT-NEAR-RENO-CLOSE-TO-TOWN-LAKE-2WD-ROADS-NO-RESERVE-/360462046281?pt=Land&hash=item53ed365449#ht_85580w t_1285


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Old 05-28-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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We are looking at purchasing this plot. (It's Near Loveland/Winnemucca Nevada)
Can some one give me personal information about the area.
Weather in Summer and Winter?
Were looking for off the grid, so power is not so much an issue.
How is the soil, can you grow anything with a water supply from a well?
Could we plant trees and ect and ever have them grow?

Can you put a well down?

I understand its desert, but it still looks beautiful.
We need some help.

Heres the link:



http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-40-ACRE-NEVADA-LOT-NEAR-RENO-CLOSE-TO-TOWN-LAKE-2WD-ROADS-NO-RESERVE-/360462046281?pt=Land&hash=item53ed365449#ht_85580w t_1285


Thanks
I think you mean Lovelock not Loveland........ well I can tell you this much OJ Simpson resides in the prison there. Winny is a fun lil town with a walmart, Raleys and some cute mom and pop shops and brothel. Loads of truckers coming through that area.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Reno
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Ad reads like SPAM.. I'd be very wary.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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We are looking at purchasing this plot. (It's Near Loveland/Winnemucca Nevada)
Can some one give me personal information about the area.
Weather in Summer and Winter?
Were looking for off the grid, so power is not so much an issue.
How is the soil, can you grow anything with a water supply from a well?
Could we plant trees and ect and ever have them grow?

Can you put a well down?

I understand its desert, but it still looks beautiful.
We need some help.

Heres the link:

http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-40-ACRE-NEVADA-LOT-NEAR-RENO-CLOSE-TO-TOWN-LAKE-2WD-ROADS-NO-RESERVE-/360462046281?pt=Land&hash=item53ed365449#ht_85580w t_1285


Thanks
Like I've told others who want to buy 40 acres for $5000, there is a reason the land is so cheap. Nobody wants it. It's out in the middle of nowhere.

When you get done putting in a well, septic tank, solar panels, a propane tank, and figuring out how to get phone, TV and internet service, you'll probably spend 2 or 3 times what you paid for the land. If there is a dirt road to your property, it will turn to mush in the winter when wet. It would probably cost you about the same to buy a place in or just outside Lovelock and then you would have access to all the utilities and be close to a supermarket, bars, casino, gas stations, stores, etc. Real estate in Lovelock is CHEAP! Lovelock is a dying town with boarded up businesses on the main street.

As for the weather, it's hot (90's) with low humidity and sometimes afternoon thunderstorms in the summer. In the winter it's cold with snow - not heavy snow, it's a desert afterall.

You can grow trees, such as cottonwood, lombardy poplars and a few others in the desert if they have water. The soil is sandy/rocky alkalai and you'd probably have add soil amendments to get things to grow well such as a vegetable garden. Lovelock itself has many old shade trees around town and a nice shady park next to the courthouse.

This whole area is empty and quiet. I love it!
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Weather in Summer and Winter?
The summer in Lovelock is hot and dry. Average temp 80-90 degrees. In August there are 1-2 weeks of 100 degree plus weather.
Winters vary.. Temps average around 40 degrees in the winter. Lovelock gets between 4-7 major snowstorms per year... the snow melts within a week though.

One negative: Wind! Northern Nevada is windier than the windy city. 25-30 mile an hour "breezes" are incredibly common. Also in Lovelock there are a lot of dust devils (dirt tornados), they are beyond annoying and frequently cause damage.

Were looking for off the grid, so power is not so much an issue.
How is the soil, can you grow anything with a water supply from a well?

It's hard to grow anything in Nevada desert soil without new soil and a lot of water. Onions are the only thing I've heard of people growing out here.

Could we plant trees and ect and ever have them grow?

Evergreen trees grow well, but you will need to water them often.

Can you put a well down?

Most people have wells down there, but they buy plots of land with wells already on them.

Overall, you would be moving to the middle of nowhere. There is a McDonalds and a couple gas stations in Lovelock. 66 miles in North in Winnemucca, there is a Walmart, 2 other grocery stores, 30 + restaurants and 5 casinos. 70 miles South- Fernley has more that Winnemucca including a Lowes. You would be living 90 miles north of Reno.

One plus of living in Lovelock is the Rye Patch Recreational Area...Rye Patch Reservoir is 22 miles long... nice for camping/day trips, etc. You can use it unlimited as a Nevada resident for around $60/year. It's really one of the only pluses to living in Lovelock.
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:48 AM
 
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Thanks for all the info!
We decided after a ton of research and speaking with county and state engineers office to buy it.
We are pretty excited and feel like its perfect.

I hear the "Don't be stupid its in the middle of nowhere" argument a lot.
And to some, yeah thats an issue. However, not for us. It would not matter where we bought land we expect a small town somewhere, but not close and pretty much seclusion. PS 17 Miles from Lovelock is not total seclusion - Possibly in Winter.

We grew up in Michigan, in a VERY small town, far from anything so I understand.
Were not looking for jobs in mining, were self employed and have the extra money to build our own house, hire someone to dig a well, and put in septic. (Also don't plan to move for a few years)

Also were not 17 year old ECO-WANNABES.
Were late twenty's with 2 kids, saving, and a realistic plan (At least to people like us).
And before anyone says, "Sure you have a plan, but do you know how hard it is to build a house, work with solar, or fix a car in the middle of nowhere with nothing?"

-Yes, I've built a few homes with my father over the years and a Auto Technician with years of experience.

We are going to do Satellite Phone / Internet and will use cisterns on top of having the well.
Also of course Solar and Wind.

State showed us recorded wells in our area hitting at 80-150 feet deep.
So although not FACT, we have high hopes to hit around there.

We love the surrounding mountains and wide open range.
We'll be ranching a few cattle and horses.

We also went with a larger plot, 80 acres.

I am glad to hear we are able to grow a few trees. We would love to grow even one pinyone if possible in that area (Please let me know)

One thing I constantly see when people talk about the area, is "Nope, Can't Do It! Where will you work? It's the Desert, Small Town, Windy, Completely Alone"

I would love to see a lot more good things about the area!
It takes no work at all to see the complaints and negatives.

I was glad to actually hear a few, Thank you HumboltRat and sweetenigma.
Any other info you can offer please do.

I love hearing people "FROM" the area or with true knowledge.
I'm realistic about the challenges, so tell me your true thoughts about the place, and if your going to bring up challenges, please bring up ideas to over come them.

Thanks Guys
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:15 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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This guy selling sells crap land all over the north part of the state. Guess I will give you two pieces of advice.

1. wrap all your electronics in plastic as the alkali dust will eat up all the components.
2. Plant 10 foot steel posts 8 feet into the ground every 100 feet on the road in, that will give you something to winch off of (you will have a winch on your truck won't you?) so that you winch your way out after it rains. The technique is to run the winch cable out to the post, drag the truck to it, run it out to the next, drag your truck to it. etc,

The other way to do it, I might as well let you know that you will get to do this too, is to dig a hole big enough to bury your spare tire in, hook your winch cable to it, bury your spare tire, winch to it, dig up your spare tire, go out 100 feet, dig another hole, bury your spare tire, repeat as needed.

Each year for the next 5-10 years budget $5,000 for gravel, each year dump a 4" inch base on the road, watch it sink to China, repeat each year.

And don't have any friends who live a parcel with cottonwoods, a stream running by and meadowland in a canyon protected from the wind. You will hate them, once you realize you could have done the same thing.

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We'll be ranching a few cattle and horses.

We also went with a larger plot, 80 acres.
80 acres might support one cow, in a good year.. If you feed hay, you best have a good inheritance, did you find out who owns the mineral rights? Do you have the right to the water under the land?
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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We own mineral rights, and were told by county were granted one well through the state on our property for residential with out need to buy water rights.
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:52 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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How do you know you own the mineral rights? It would be very unusual for the original owner to grant them as part of a subdivision.

Do you know there is drinkable water? Did you drill before purchase? Sucks to drill, find water and have the county tell youif is not drinkable.

As you may have guessed by my lack of enthusiasm for your purchase, there are many beautiful places in Nevada, sitting in the middle of an alkali flat doesn't make the list.

I cannot figure out why anyone would buy out on one of those flats, unless the purchase price is all they considered.

As for fertility, look at what is growing on it now, shadscale, you are out of luck, sagebrush will tell you. Head high is fertile, waist high is marginal, knee high, sucks.

This line is important: BLM LAND WILL NEVER...EVER...BE DEVELOPED! 640 ACRES OF BLM LAND ADJOINING YOUR 40 ACRE LOT. It is accurate in that the BLM land won't be developed, but, BLM land unlike FS land can and is sold to private interests in Nevada. That it states your property abuts a 640 acre BLM parcel tells you this is former railroad grant land. Think of a checker board, all the black squares are 640 acres of BLM, all the white squares are 640 acres of private, easy to have an "outside parcel" well within the grant boundaries.

And then I looked at the map..... The road in is precisely the road where my friend Nick had to resort to the spare tire burying trick to get through the deep mud.

This sentence troubles me:
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clearest air remaining in the lower 48 states,
Nevada is not known as a clear air state, the alkali dust from the dry lakes blown up by the winds are a problem. The reason why the sunsets are so much sharper in New Mexico is that they don't have the dry lakes

This too:
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Located just north of the town of Lovelock and less than 2 hours from Reno. On the one hand Star Peak is a somewhat "typical" north Nevada Great Basin Peak, looking like every other mountain in these majestic ranges.
Trinity Valley is many miles south of Star Peak which is the north end of the Humboldt Range, your parcel is south of the south end of the Humboldt range, I think this is not an honest sentence. However, you will be living just north of one of the busiest Navy bombing ranges in the United States;


That may be your valley there in the back ground.

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Old 06-10-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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Mineral rights are included on the deed and on record.

Also this is the general location: 40.166533 -118.240049
(The 40 acre plot has pictures from the section we bought land in)

It does not seem to fall in the alkali Flats or even completely in the Buena Vista Valley.
From what we can tell sage is growing and there seems to be a good amount of it. We received other pics from our plot that look pretty much the exact same. Meaning it not just a pile of and with nothing at all in or on it.

But I am 100% taking what your saying seriously highnlite.
I do not want an 80 acre plot of only sand with bad water sources.

Please take a look at the coordinates I included, we checked google maps, google earth, county maps, and ect.
To us nothing points to 100% sand box where nothing grows, and there is no water in any source. (The state engineer seemed to agree with us on the fact that there was good water source in the area.)

Pics from plot.






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