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Old 09-20-2012, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Well, after Romney shot himself in both feet, reloaded, and did it again, reloaded, and did it again, reloaded, and did it again, I wouldn't worry too much about the swing states any more. They've swung. Stick a fork in him/the fat lady just sang/take him off your Christmas list/he's toast.

I'll bet he still gets 20 states. But now it's time to speculate how the House and Senate shape up.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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I actually don't care who wins, as long as they can fix the economy. Bring more jobs, and not the piddly little minimum wage one's. Although I voted for Obama the first time, I probably will not the second time.
I, too, voted for Obama.
Because he did nothing for the first two years when he could have had Congress in his pocket, I can not force myself to vote for him again.

I generally think a wealthy person might be less prone to be swayed by big money lobbyists, but Romney impresses me not at all. I think he is so out of touch with the average person that his comments appear to be calloused and poorly thought out. I, just listening to him, get no indication of the brain it would take to make a such a fortune operating in him. I think most of his wealth is inherited and he just added to it, having good opportunities come his way.

So, I probably will not vote, this election. It's a pity that the Republicans can not put up a decent candidate.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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" Looks like Nevada, the swing state, has swung for Obama"

So...in other words, Nevada swung and missed.
More like the GOP swung and missed when they failed to produce a viable opponent for this year's presidential election.

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Old 09-20-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Because he did nothing for the first two years when he could have had Congress in his pocket
This of course is a hoary Republican canard;
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It is often said that there are no right or wrong answers in opinion polling, but in this case, there is an empirically right answeróone chosen by only 12 percent of the pollís respondents. The answer is that Obama has accomplished ďa great deal.Ē

Measured in sheer legislative tonnage, what Obama got done in his first two years is stunning. Health care reform. The takeover and turnaround of the auto industry. The biggest economic stimulus in history. Sweeping new regulations of Wall Street. A tough new set of consumer protections on the credit card industry. A vast expansion of national service. Net neutrality. The greatest increase in wilderness protection in fifteen years. A revolutionary reform to student aid. Signing the New START treaty with Russia. The ending of ďdonít ask, donít tell.Ē

Even over the past year, when he was bogged down in budget fights with the Tea Party-controlled GOP House, Obama still managed to squeeze out a few domestic policy victories, including a $1.2 trillion deficit reduction deal and the most sweeping overhaul of food safety laws in more than seventy years. More impressively, on the foreign policy front he ended the war in Iraq, began the drawdown in Afghanistan, helped to oust Gaddafi in Libya and usher out Mubarak in Egypt, orchestrated new military and commercial alliances as a hedge against China, and tightened sanctions against Iran over its nukes.

Oh, and he shifted counterterrorism strategies to target Osama bin Lade
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Counties
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Well, after Romney shot himself in both feet, reloaded, and did it again, reloaded, and did it again, reloaded, and did it again, I wouldn't worry too much about the swing states any more. They've swung. Stick a fork in him/the fat lady just sang/take him off your Christmas list/he's toast.

I'll bet he still gets 20 states. But now it's time to speculate how the House and Senate shape up.
I read this on the internet so it must be true; Romney's campaign is so dead the Mormons baptized it.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Why we didn't see George W. Bush and Dick Cheney speaking at GOP convention??????
That is because they didn't want to remind us who got us in this mess in the first place.
Romney is totally out of touch with regular citizens. He thinks average middle class salary is between $200.000 and $250.000.

Romney should run for a Country Club President not for president of United States.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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During Obama's first two years, the Dems had a large majority in the House and a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate for a good chunk of that time. The Reps could not stop anything. If you feel that Congress couldn't get anything done, especially as it relates to jobs or the economy, it was because the Dems couldn't get out of their own way. How did that work out?
I'm not saying the Democratic party is perfect, far from it! the first two years were largely spent keeping the economy from crashing further into the abyss.

I read somewhere that the Feds spent a lot of money on infrastructure that went to the states for "shovel ready" jobs. The states were responsible for spending the money and creating the jobs. I don't know if you live in Nevada, but our state could mess up a wet dream.

The chuckleheads here in LV are spending highway beautification money putting fake cactus statues in the medians in town. They started this year. Really?

We need statesmen. People that care more about the country than reelection.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I'm not saying the Democratic party is perfect, far from it! the first two years were largely spent keeping the economy from crashing further into the abyss.

I read somewhere that the Feds spent a lot of money on infrastructure that went to the states for "shovel ready" jobs. The states were responsible for spending the money and creating the jobs. I don't know if you live in Nevada, but our state could mess up a wet dream.

The chuckleheads here in LV are spending highway beautification money putting fake cactus statues in the medians in town. They started this year. Really?

We need statesmen. People that care more about the country than reelection.
You are partially correct. If you recall, Congress passed and the President signed the $800 billion stimulus bill in Feb 2009. This was to fund many of the 'shovel ready' projects you referred to, which was intended to jump start the economy. After that, the administration shifted their focus from a still-stagnant economy to healthcare.

I couldn't agree more with your last sentence. I cannot think of a single individual (Dem, Rep, or Ind) serving in any public office today that is a true statesman.

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Old 09-21-2012, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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After that, the administration shifted their focus from a still-stagnant economy to healthcare.
They knew it was their one and only shot. 2010 wouldn't be good for the Democrats, no matter what they did -- they were guaranteed to lose the House. I'm amazed they kept the Senate. I think they should have pounded on jobs for two years -- doing little else. And then ramming healthcare through before Oct., 2010.

The Republicans SHOULD be winning this -- nobody in either party focused on jobs and infrastructure. There was no "New Deal, Part 2." The Democrats were at the helm. And they're to blame for not making job creation the #1 priority -- to the exclusion of everything else. When America desperately needed another Roosevelt, we got Obama.

But the Republicans have put forward a candidate who has all the worst qualities of Richard Nixon, Bob Dole, Dan Quayle and Montgomery Burns (from the Simpsons). They could have picked a name at random out of the phone book and found a more electable candidate. Well, I hope they're enjoying their ideological purity -- for all the good it's going to do them come November.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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The Republicans SHOULD be winning this -- nobody in either party focused on jobs and infrastructure. There was no "New Deal, Part 2." The Democrats were at the helm. And they're to blame for not making job creation the #1 priority -- to the exclusion of everything else. When America desperately needed another Roosevelt, we got Obama.
I'm not going to predict a Romney win, but there's a lot of similarities between 1980 and now. Jimmy Carter had a significant lead over Reagan through most of Oct. We know what happened there.

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But the Republicans have put forward a candidate who has all the worst qualities of Richard Nixon, Bob Dole, Dan Quayle and Montgomery Burns (from the Simpsons). They could have picked a name at random out of the phone book and found a more electable candidate. Well, I hope they're enjoying their ideological purity -- for all the good it's going to do them come November.
It's tough to get good people to run with all of the scrutiny today. Anyone who wants the job (Dem, Rep, or Ind) is nuts.
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