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Old 06-23-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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You mean the CEO who built it into a 20 billion dollar company? Seems like a very driven guy, and they usually have their nasty aspects. But they get things done, and he certainly did. Look for him to start another company, and get it into the billions in sales again.

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Uber just fired their founding CEO (a world class jerk-off if there ever was one...) so I suspect there will be some swift and meaningful changes at this nasty little company. I use Lyft personally.

Ridesharing is here to stay though. I drove taxi for awhile in NYC and it was much the same brouhaha. The taxi garages were mad the drivers were fleeing to lease Uber cars instead of medallion cabs. The drivers were upset because they weren't making as much in a shift because Uber/Lyft were stealing market share. It's a new normal and everybody just has to deal with it.
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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It would be a scam if no one were actually using the product. People are, and are loving it. it's become the archetype for a disruptive technology that's taking over an industry. It isn't making a profit yet, because they've chosen not to, in order to drive market share growth. Their investors (who are the only ones who's opinions count on this subject) seem to be fine with this. Other companies have done this quite successfully (think Amazon)

The non-businesslike antics of the newly former CEO were threatening their brand image with their customer base, so, unfortunately he had to go. I just hope they don't get a stodgy, old fashioned face person CEO, who doesn't know how to drive growth at a startup.

But this is unquestionably the future of this industry. The traditional cab companies and their adherents are screwed, and I consider this a good thing, since that has been a crappy, crooked, monopolistic industry for decades, that desperately breaking up. All the negativity some people are spouting is sour grapes of losers who are caught on the wrong side of a paradigm shift.

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Interesting quote from an online conversation for Uber.

Asked why the Uber user should drop them:

"Because the whole company is a scam, a giant Ponzi scheme where the late-stage investment has come from Russian & Saudi oligarchs effectively paying out the founders & angels. What's left is a heavily funded shell that's really just a brand awareness campaign to maintain presence until software replaces paid humans. They have pushed driver pay so low that these dummies are sleeping in their cars and pissing in bottles. I see it every day on my walking commute.. and I also see the familiar "U" in the window of every ***hole stopping in the middle of an intersection (and/or crosswalks) impeding the flow to pick up or drop off.

We can also include in this discussion about how their partnership with Santander is helping fuel a nasty subprime auto finance bubble and creating indentured servitude locking drivers into lease contracts on overpriced Priuses that only get more expensive as driver pay is reduced.

I'm not going to support a business that profits from stealing economic mobility from the people they purport to benefit."


I take it that some markets are worse for Uber drivers while others are not.
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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It would be a scam if no one were actually using the product. People are, and are loving it. it's become the archetype for a disruptive technology that's taking over an industry. It isn't making a profit yet, because they've chosen not to, in order to drive market share growth. Their investors (who are the only ones who's opinions count on this subject) seem to be fine with this. Other companies have done this quite successfully (think Amazon)

The non-businesslike antics of the newly former CEO were threatening their brand image with their customer base, so, unfortunately he had to go. I just hope they don't get a stodgy, old fashioned face person CEO, who doesn't know how to drive growth at a startup.

But this is unquestionably the future of this industry. The traditional cab companies and their adherents are screwed, and I consider this a good thing, since that has been a crappy, crooked, monopolistic industry for decades, that desperately breaking up. All the negativity some people are spouting is sour grapes of losers who are caught on the wrong side of a paradigm shift.


The taxi industry is never going to survive unless they drastically change their model. Even if the cost to Uber and Lyft eventually increases to be on par with the current taxi rates, I believe that you aren't going to see a decrease in users. If the taxi industry thinks that cost is the only reason that people are using these services then they are going to die out. I'm sure, for some parents, these apps give them piece of mind, you can insure that your child always has a safe ride home and can longer use the excuse that they didn't have the cash for a cab. You can set it up so that you know when your child is picked up and dropped off, and you don't have to scramble if something prevents you from picking up your kid.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:59 PM
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Location: Las Vegas
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Taxi cab union gave 327,000 to Nevada politicians.

Lyft gave 2500.


Who is the cartel again?
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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The taxi industry is never going to survive unless they drastically change their model. Even if the cost to Uber and Lyft eventually increases to be on par with the current taxi rates, I believe that you aren't going to see a decrease in users. If the taxi industry thinks that cost is the only reason that people are using these services then they are going to die out. I'm sure, for some parents, these apps give them piece of mind, you can insure that your child always has a safe ride home and can longer use the excuse that they didn't have the cash for a cab. You can set it up so that you know when your child is picked up and dropped off, and you don't have to scramble if something prevents you from picking up your kid.
Well, it's a fact that single females at least feel safer in a cab and I have heard numerous people say "I am not about to ride with someone's personal car" and the already mentioned stricter background and drug checks for the professional taxi drivers will make one think that taxis still have things going for them. Also, we don't need cash for cabs at least in Vegas and I assume in all cities by now.
Also, since one of you asked me I am not a cab driver.

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Old 06-23-2017, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Here and there, you decide.
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. I'm sure, for some parents, these apps give them piece of mind, you can insure that your child always has a safe ride home and can longer use the excuse that they didn't have the cash for a cab. You can set it up so that you know when your child is picked up and dropped off, and you don't have to scramble if something prevents you from picking up your kid.

Actually a person has to be 18 to ride in an uber. So a parent cannot just order an uber and put them in a car
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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You mean the CEO who built it into a 20 billion dollar company? Seems like a very driven guy, and they usually have their nasty aspects. But they get things done, and he certainly did. Look for him to start another company, and get it into the billions in sales again.
I'm not too worried about his future and am sure he'll be fine.
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:57 PM
 
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The rates are too cheap to make it a real occupation and rideshare companies rely on desperate idiots who cant do math. It's all win-win for the customer and lose-lose for the drivers dumb enough to ruin their own car all day for peanut rates and then face a big bill to Uncle Sam at tax time after they've spent all their 1099 money. You're better off getting a $15/hr W-2 job or getting your CDL and driving trucks if you want to make a respectable wage driving. There are guys who make a respectable living doing black car service but it's a full time job and they don't charge bottom of the barrel rates.
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Old 06-23-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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Given to growth and popularity of these services, you've been proven wrong experimentally. Anyone who needs a ride can chose whichever service, cab or rideshare they prefer.

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Well, it's a fact that single females at least feel safer in a cab and I have heard numerous people say "I am not about to ride with someone's personal car" and the already mentioned stricter background and drug checks for the professional taxi drivers will make one think that taxis still have things going for them. Also, we don't need cash for cabs at least in Vegas and I assume in all cities by now.
Also, since one of you asked me I am not a cab driver.
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:29 AM
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Location: Las Vegas
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I avoid school hours and have turned down anyone obviously under 18. 3-10 dollars is not worth the tornado of crap that can befall you if something happens.
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