Legislature Approves Bill Authorizing Uber, Lyft in Nevada (Las Vegas, Paradise: leases, house)

[ev780]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

That's how it works in a monopoly, and in an oligopoly. And that's why we're seeing such push back.

It would be the same if real competition were to enter the internet and television market. Cox and Dish and Centurylink and the rest would fall over themselves demanding that consumers know about the "hidden dangers" of competition and doing everything they could (including strong-arming the government) to keep their monopoly in place.

I respectfully disagree. But not 100%. Monopolies can act like that but do not have to act like that. My company is a monopoly and we get consistently high rating from our customers. Gotta say Las Vegas Water has been good to me. Couple SNAFU's and they were handled professionally and promptly. Just an example.

But I do agree that it can be a problem. Proper monopolies are necessary for economies of scale but improper monopolies are a major burden.

[shellymdnv]

Originally Posted by BBMW

Actually, with the Uber model, the price for the ride is fixed up front, so there's no incentive to long haul (and I don't mean just from the airport to the strip.) The price is the price, no matter which route the driver takes.

Some drivers have been saying that for traffic and other reasons, taking the highway tunnel from the McCarren to certain Strip casinos makes more sense than Swenson/Paradise. Since it would't change the price, they'd now be free to use it. They just wouldn't get paid more for doing so.

Not completely true, the price you are quoted is an estimate so things like traffic can affect the final price. It may just be time based but I don't know for certain. However you are shown the expected route to your destination so if the driver goes too far the expected route, you'll know.

[Cyborgt800]

However you are still not addressing the point. What is being done to stop the drivers, you insist in saying that if you know about it and do nothing it's you fault which implies the driver deserves no blame?

WOW! Is it REALLY so hard to understand that if you the passenger does nothing to stop/report this problem that nothing will be done?

What are the good drivers supposed to do? We don't catch the longhaulers...we only get to hear all the whining. When I heard from passengers about getting longhauled I'd ask if they called the TA?...NO...did you get the cab number?...NO did you get the drivers name?...NO why not...I didn't want to be bothered!

GEESH!
If you don't want to look up the fare for yourself, call the TA, get the cab number or report the drive...OR refuse to pay the overcharge then what the heck do you expect?

And some of you want to call yourselves victims? If you don't want to do anything about it then you are COMPLICIT!

Good drivers cannot do anything about it, we weren't there, we don't have anything but hearsay evidence about an unknown cab number and unknown driver... The TA and cab companies give you tons of opportunity to know the correct fare and report longhauling...if you are too lazy then it's on YOU.

There are signs with fares posted in the airport, there are huge numbers on the cabs, there are signs in the cabs with the TA's number and a passengers bill of rights right on the passenger door, the cab company themselves can give you an acceptable price range based on the quickest route and the cabbies license is prominently displayed on the dash for you to see! What else do you want? Oh, I forgot....if you feel you were ripped off tell the doorman before you pay the cabbie...they can hold the cab until the TA arrives if need be.

But no...you want the problem to magically disappear without having to get involved. And now I'M a bad guy for pointing this obvious stuff out?


All you really need to do is tell the cabbie you're calling the TA...if they ripped you off they will immediately tell you the fair fare and eat the overage. They do that often enough they'll stop all on their own.

[shellymdnv]

Originally Posted by shellymdnv

Or you had the foolish expectation that someone would do their job in an ethical manner. Now who's fault is that again?

Originally Posted by ev780

Really?!?!?! The customer's fault again?

I surrender. You win, it is all our (the customer's) fault and the cab system is perfect. Uber will be bankrupt in days. But.....until that happens I will be all in with Uber.

Um it seems my sarcasm was missed. My point was that customers should be free to expect that they aren't going to be taken advantage of whereas others seem to think that if you trust your driver you deserve what you get.

[Cyborgt800]

My point was that customers should be free to expect that they aren't going to be taken advantage of whereas others seem to think that if you trust your driver you deserve what you get.

NO, MY point is that if you were longhauled and did nothing about it but whine then you deserve it! It's in the customers hand to stop it, at the very least for their ride.

If you got the wrong order from a restaurant and just sat and ate it without saying something...well, you deserve what you accept!

[shellymdnv]

Originally Posted by Cyborgt800

WOW! Is it REALLY so hard to understand that if you the passenger does nothing to stop/report this problem that nothing will be done?

What are the good drivers supposed to do? We don't catch the longhaulers...we only get to hear all the whining. When I heard from passengers about gettinglonghauled I'd ask if they called the TA...NO...did you get the cab number...NO did you get the drivers name...NO why not...I didn't want to be bothered!

GEESH!
If you don't want to look up the fare for yourself, call the TA, get the cab number or report the drive...OR refuse to pay the overcharge then what the heck do you expect?

And some of you want to call yourselves victims? If you don't want to do anything about it then you are COMPLICIT!

Good drivers cannot do anything about it, we weren't there, we don't have anything but hearsay evidence about an unknown cab number and unknown driver... The TA and cab companies give you tons of opportunity to know the correct fare and report longhauling...if you are too lazy then it's on YOU.

Here is where your problem is. Yes you can do something about it, you can start demanding ways to stop the practice. With the technology that is now available you should be coming up with ways to use technology to catch offenders. Why not ask for a car tracking system that logs the pick and drop off location and compares the expected route vs. the one taken? I assume there is a system that logs your fares, ask for analysis of fares logged to see if there are drivers that seem to have higher than average fares for the same route. Track the number of miles and do the same thing. I don't know if these things are currently possible but they seem like it can be. But as a driver you should know what is and isn't possible. The last thing you should do is throw up your hands and say well the burden is solely on the passenger.

[Cyborgt800]

^^^^ I have a problem? No YOU have a problem... you want someone else to do the fixing for you? No one is gonna fix it if it keeps going unreported...it's not a problem for them otherwise.

The answer is simple really...REPORT the crime!

Yes you can do something about it, you can start demanding ways to stop the practice.

LOL Oh see, you want ME to do something huh? I'M not the one being longhauled!

[Vegas_Cabbie]

Originally Posted by Cyborgt800

WOW! Is it REALLY so hard to understand that if you the passenger does nothing to stop/report this problem that nothing will be done?

What are the good drivers supposed to do? We don't catch the longhaulers...we only get to hear all the whining. When I heard from passengers about getting longhauled I'd ask if they called the TA?...NO...did you get the cab number?...NO did you get the drivers name?...NO why not...I didn't want to be bothered!

GEESH!
If you don't want to look up the fare for yourself, call the TA, get the cab number or report the drive...OR refuse to pay the overcharge then what the heck do you expect?

And some of you want to call yourselves victims? If you don't want to do anything about it then you are COMPLICIT!

Good drivers cannot do anything about it, we weren't there, we don't have anything but hearsay evidence about an unknown cab number and unknown driver... The TA and cab companies give you tons of opportunity to know the correct fare and report longhauling...if you are too lazy then it's on YOU.

There are signs with fares posted in the airport, there are huge numbers on the cabs, there are signs in the cabs with the TA's number and a passengers bill of rights right on the passenger door, the cab company themselves can give you an acceptable price range based on the quickest route and the cabbies license is prominently displayed on the dash for you to see! What else do you want? Oh, I forgot....if you feel you were ripped off tell the doorman before you pay the cabbie...they can hold the cab until the TA arrives if need be.

But no...you want the problem to magically disappear without having to get involved. And now I'M a bad guy for pointing this obvious stuff out?


All you really need to do is tell the cabbie you're calling the TA...if they ripped you off they will immediately tell you the fair fare and eat the overage. They do that often enough they'll stop all on their own.

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If I'm not mistaken, I think Walgreens has Neosporin on sale right now for those burns you all just received.

[Vegas_Cabbie]

Originally Posted by shellymdnv

Here is where your problem is. Yes you can do something about it, you can start demanding ways to stop the practice. With the technology that is now available you should be coming up with ways to use technology to catch offenders. Why not ask for a car tracking system that logs the pick and drop off location and compares the expected route vs. the one taken? I assume there is a system that logs your fares, ask for analysis of fares logged to see if there are drivers that seem to have higher than average fares for the same route. Track the number of miles and do the same thing. I don't know if these things are currently possible but they seem like it can be. But as a driver you should know what is and isn't possible. The last thing you should do is throw up your hands and say well the burden is solely on the passenger.

Speaking of technology... There are multiple cab companies that will be implementing an app that works as a tracking as dispatching system for riders and drivers... Sounds familiar? So much for some of Uber's advantages.
Oh... And just wait until someone pukes in an Uber car in Vegas. Know what happens when someone gets sick in a Vegas cab? You get sworn at. Know what happens when you puke in an Uber car? The driver sends a report out attached to your account and management tacks on $200 to your ride. But oh... That lovely Uber.

It really blows constantly getting crap from locals... And whoever said it, they're right... I don't pick locals up. However, there are many who do... Especially old timers who got sick of the hectic strip area.

What about drivers who help people save money? Those who take the cheapest route and learn as much as possible about our navigation options in order to maximize the savings for the passenger. What about drivers who help passengers get cheap show tickets or give advice regarding our city? We don't HAVE to do that. Nope... Never any praise.

I average around 15 passengers a day... That's a low estimate. That means I interact with more than 3,750 tourists a year... And I make damn sure to leave a good impression on them. They are the ones paying our bills here in the Valley... I'm glad I can provide a good experience for those who actually appreciate it.

[Tornado Baby]

To my best recollection, the bus does not long haul.