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Old 07-06-2017, 10:02 AM
 
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I wonder how well shilling on city-data pays.

At least I hope he's getting paid. Otherwise, yikes.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:57 PM
 
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How funny. 68 pages regarding Uber and Lyft. And the funniest part is the fear mongering. Uber and Lyft are successful for two reasons: 1) Nobody likes to be gouged, and 2) No one likes people that are dishonest. And Las Vegas taxi drivers are as dishonest as they come. I can't tell you how many times cab drivers in Vegas tried to long trip me, not realizing my father lived there for 6 years and I knew my way around pretty well. If taxis had done a better job of customer service, there would be no need for Uber or Lyft. Tough Chit!
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Old 07-09-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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How funny. 68 pages regarding Uber and Lyft. And the funniest part is the fear mongering. Uber and Lyft are successful for two reasons: 1) Nobody likes to be gouged, and 2) No one likes people that are dishonest. And Las Vegas taxi drivers are as dishonest as they come. I can't tell you how many times cab drivers in Vegas tried to long trip me, not realizing my father lived there for 6 years and I knew my way around pretty well. If taxis had done a better job of customer service, there would be no need for Uber or Lyft. Tough Chit!
You forget: 1. Many ride share drivers were cad drivers and dishonest according to you (although those dishonest ones are a small % of cabdrivers to begin with). 2. Ride share companies are a ponzi scheme backed by foreign investors with billions while providing cut throat rates and thus are unfair competition. 3. Ride share drivers don't get drug or alcohol tested, so much for the trust factor. 4. Cab drivers go through more thorough background checks. 5. Ride share companies are bleeding billions and have yet to turn a profit. 6. Many ride share drivers are breaking auto insurance laws.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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You forget: 1. Many ride share drivers were cad drivers and dishonest according to you (although those dishonest ones are a small % of cabdrivers to begin with). 2. Ride share companies are a ponzi scheme backed by foreign investors with billions while providing cut throat rates and thus are unfair competition. 3. Ride share drivers don't get drug or alcohol tested, so much for the trust factor. 4. Cab drivers go through more thorough background checks. 5. Ride share companies are bleeding billions and have yet to turn a profit. 6. Many ride share drivers are breaking auto insurance laws.

Did you see the local news segment(I think Fox 5) where they embarrassed the local taxi companies? The news station called a Lyft, Uber and 2 taxi companies to take them from point A to Point B.


All Uber and Lyft drivers arrived within 5-8 minutes. The Taxis showed up within 40-50 minutes.
Uber and Lyft Driver charged $8-15 per ride. The Taxis were in the range of $41-55.
One of the Lyft drivers also asked permission to deviate from the GPS route to take a better known short cut. One of the taxi drivers took it upon himself to take a "longcut".


Maybe taxi drivers should go through an integrity check instead of a background check.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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You forget: 1. Many ride share drivers were cad drivers and dishonest according to you (although those dishonest ones are a small % of cabdrivers to begin with). 2. Ride share companies are a ponzi scheme backed by foreign investors with billions while providing cut throat rates and thus are unfair competition. 3. Ride share drivers don't get drug or alcohol tested, so much for the trust factor. 4. Cab drivers go through more thorough background checks. 5. Ride share companies are bleeding billions and have yet to turn a profit. 6. Many ride share drivers are breaking auto insurance laws.
ROTFLMAO!

Von's post above is a perfect description of the difference. Add to that a GPS system in place for the customer to see that the Lyft or Uber driver is taking the appropriate route, plus a rating system where if the driver doesn't maintain a certain standard they can no longer drive for the company.

Background checks don't seem to help the terrible cab drivers that have nearly gotten me killed on more than one occasion (maybe stop worrying about background checks and get them some driving lessons). Your fear mongering is boring.

The other laughable part is this business model is a socialist dream. We have a bunch of wealthy investors putting up the money to keep a business going and the customer benefits from it (hell, it's not even tax payer money). And that should bother me because? People should milk this for as long as they possibly can. But ultimately, even if prices go up similar to the cab prices, this isn't the only reason why they're more successful then cabs. Taxi companies are learning a valuable lesson on what happens when you screw over the customer. Again, tough chit!

P.S. And don't waste my time with your cherry picked links that represent less than 1% of 1% of the total rides by Lyft and Uber. What I care about is my experience with cabs vs Uber and Lyft, not some statistically meaningless propaganda put out by cab companies.

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Old 07-09-2017, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Had guests come out to visit Friday. Fare by taxi from the Mirage to our home near Craig and Durango was $76. We had warned them to use Lyft or Uber but the cab was apparently more convenient at the Mirage.
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Old 07-09-2017, 01:58 PM
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Had guests come out to visit Friday. Fare by taxi from the Mirage to our home near Craig and Durango was $76. We had warned them to use Lyft or Uber but the cab was apparently more convenient at the Mirage.

This is the main reason cabs are still operating. They've bribed, unethically, all the casinos to put rideshare in the back out of the way. If roles were reversed and cabs had the back areas, they'd be dead already. We're fighting against dirty tactics and still winning because we're a superior service in every way.



Please, wildwest, for the love of god, look up what a ponzi scheme is. Rideshare is nowhere near that...
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:07 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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ROTFLMAO!

Von's post above is a perfect description of the difference. Add to that a GPS system in place for the customer to see that the Lyft or Uber driver is taking the appropriate route, plus a rating system where if the driver doesn't maintain a certain standard they can no longer drive for the company.

Background checks don't seem to help the terrible cab drivers that have nearly gotten me killed on more than one occasion (maybe stop worrying about background checks and get them some driving lessons). Your fear mongering is boring.

The other laughable part is this business model is a socialist dream. We have a bunch of wealthy investors putting up the money to keep a business going and the customer benefits from it (hell, it's not even tax payer money). And that should bother me because? People should milk this for as long as they possibly can. But ultimately, even if prices go up similar to the cab prices, this isn't the only reason why they're more successful then cabs. Taxi companies are learning a valuable lesson on what happens when you screw over the customer. Again, tough chit!

P.S. And don't waste my time with your cherry picked links that represent less than 1% of 1% of the total rides by Lyft and Uber. What I care about is my experience with cabs vs Uber and Lyft, not some statistically meaningless propaganda put out by cab companies.
Background checks do matter and you seem to be the one that is cherry picking as if you can't get killed with ride shares in more ways than one. Rather ride with a cab driver than a grandma or a doped up teen/young adult that drives for Uber on the weekend LOL!

Socialist dream is a joke. It is called unfair competition and should be illegal but that is not to say that cab companies needed to be taught a lesson especially from the way they treated their drivers.

What cab company propaganda? I call it as I see I believe is right. You don't have to agree but that doesn't make you right

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Old 07-09-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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This is the main reason cabs are still operating. They've bribed, unethically, all the casinos to put rideshare in the back out of the way. If roles were reversed and cabs had the back areas, they'd be dead already. We're fighting against dirty tactics and still winning because we're a superior service in every way.



Please, wildwest, for the love of god, look up what a ponzi scheme is. Rideshare is nowhere near that...
Cab companies were grandfathered in these locations. What you say about bribing is something you assume as there is absolutely NO proof. Remember that ride shares have to be hailed via a phone where cabs don't and it will be a logistic nightmare if you had hundreds of people not even in a line waiting and watching their phones for their rides to show up!

I know what a ponzi scheme is and I am not the only calling it them that as there are experts that do also and you know I have quoted sources before.

The only service that ride shares do is provide an app which is no big deal in itself. There are millions of apps created by as many nerds. Everything else is done by the driver. While it might not be a pure definition of a ponzi for some, it sure smells ,walks, acts and smells like one!

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Old 07-09-2017, 02:37 PM
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"Typically, Ponzi schemes require an initial investment and promise well-above-average returns."

I paid 0 dollars to drive for lyft and Uber. They asked for no investment on my part.
Lyft and Uber sell a SERVICE. It's 100% legitimate. It's like selling a maid service, pool cleaning service, or any other service where people pay to have something done. In the case of Lyft and Uber they pay for a ride from point A to point B. There's no scam in that at all.

I get paid, on a daily basis, to drive people around. Lyft gets a cut but provides the app, network, insurance, and everything else.

No one is getting screwed over. No one is going to get screwed over.

There are bad people in EVERY job from school teachers that diddle kids to politicians that murder people to lawyers that sleep with clients to fast food workers that beat up customers to tradesmen that rob houses they've worked on to hedge fund managers that embezzled millions of dollars. The fact is, you can not find a single job without some criminal element. From the top to the bottom there are criminals in every sector of the job market.
No background check, no safety regulations, no accountability is going to prevent every crime from happening. Humans suck. Deal with it. The fact is, there are far more rideshare drivers that haven't done anything wrong than there are drivers that have. If a large number of rideshare drivers started assaulting customers then customers would stop using it. That's not happening. An extremely small portion of drivers are just crappy people and they get weeded out quickly.
It's not like catholic priests that molest kids and get moved to a new church to start over. When a rideshare driver messes up, he's done.
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