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Old 12-23-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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Probably. The dirty little secret is that solar doesn't make economic sense without big incentives.

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Why even bother with solar then. How much is a kW on time of use? Just charge the batteries overnight on time of use and use that to at least part subsidise the day time. Surely pushes back the break even point of solar even more...
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Vegas, baby, Vegas!
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Jon,

You need to go political and start a petition drive to get a proposal on the ballot to force NVenergy to buy back excess rooftop solar at $1/KW/H.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH not
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Old 12-23-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Vegas, baby, Vegas!
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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Tonopah is I believe over 10 cents per KWH

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Crescent Dunes will sell the electricity to NV Energy at 13.5 cents per kilowatt-hour, with the price rising 1 percent a year during the life of the 25-year power purchase agreement.
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SolarReserve: Crescent Dunes Solar Tower Will Power Up in March

iI have seen numbers in the 15 to 25 cent range for Ivanapah. Purportedly large PV arrays are getting to 5 cents.
That is the price NV Energy was forced to pay in 2014 to meet the 'renewables mandate'. Prices have dropped dramatically. See NV Energy’s July 1 filing with the Public Utilities Commission of Nevada which is summarized here and below.

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NV Energy, a subsidiary of Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Energy, has agreed to a power purchase agreement (PPA) at a $0.0387 per kWh rate for the 100 MW output of First Solar’s Playa Solar 2 installation. It is likely the lowest rate for solar energy-generated electricity made public to date, Bloomberg reports, and is likely the cheapest electricity available in the U.S. today.
The rate was made public in NV Energy’s July 1 filing with the Public Utilities Commission of Nevada. That filing also covered NV Energy’s 2014 PPA for the purchase of the production of SunPower’s 100 MW Boulder Solar installation at $0.046 per kWh, which is thought to be the lowest 2014 rate made public.
Those prices represent dramatic price reductions for NV Energy which, according to the filing, paid an average of $0.1377 per kWh in 2014 for solar generation to help it meet the state’s 25% by 2025 renewables mandate.
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Old 12-23-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the folks who made out like bandits (other than NVE) are the ones who leased the panels, with a lease rate based on the solar installer taking the energy credits.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Today I heard Solar City has closed?
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Old 12-24-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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NV Energy is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Old 12-25-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Today I heard Solar City has closed?
They halted all new installations. Whether or not they are bluffing is to be seen.
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