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Old 08-10-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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I gather there seem to be a lot of these rebates floating around from NV Energy. I just was emailed one offering me a $250 rebate if I installed a variable speed pool pump, obviously installed by someone on their approved list....

I'm just wondering if these things in general actually stack up? Are the installers prices padded because they're on the list? Will I find that if I went to a load of people not on their list that I'll find the installation is actually $400 less?

Has anyone here moved from an old pool pump to a variable speed, if so, what sort of difference in the power bills were seen?

My pumps are OLD but working fine...
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Old 08-10-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I gather there seem to be a lot of these rebates floating around from NV Energy. I just was emailed one offering me a $250 rebate if I installed a variable speed pool pump, obviously installed by someone on their approved list....

I'm just wondering if these things in general actually stack up? Are the installers prices padded because they're on the list? Will I find that if I went to a load of people not on their list that I'll find the installation is actually $400 less?

Has anyone here moved from an old pool pump to a variable speed, if so, what sort of difference in the power bills were seen?

My pumps are OLD but working fine...
It's pretty hard to pay less than NPS would charge your for the installed pump, unless you did the install yourself. The prices aren't padded. I'm assuming you aren't in town, otherwise you could just walk into the store and determine this yourself?

The energy savings from a variable speed pool pump are well documented. You can figure 70-75% savings easily. This is done by halving the speed you run the pump and running it twice as long. The reason your savings are more than 1/2 is because the backpressure from the filter and friction in the lines is much less when you lower the flow. If you reduce your speed and run time to the point where you get a single turn of the water per day, you can probably save even more.

If you have solar heating or water features, you may not be able to run at low speeds, or at least not all the time, so your savings would be less.

I turn my water more than once per day during the summer. I estimate I went from about $110 to $30 per month spent to run the pool pump. The variable speed pump is also much quieter when running at lower speeds, about as loud as an aquarium pump.
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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Very insightful thanks.

Indeed, I'm not in town. I do have someone I'd trust to do the I wall, but he's not on the NV Energy list...
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Old 08-10-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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NV Energy Pool Rebate Information:

https://nvenergy.com/home/saveenergy.../poolpumps.cfm
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Old 08-10-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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As MBA said, a variable speed pump is a complete no brainer. I suspect I've been saving around $50 per month since it was installed. On top of that, they are much quieter, nearly silent on the normal run speed. I assume it will last longer since it doesn't run nearly as hot as my old pump.

The install on the pump is fairly simple. When they are replacing an old pump it's pretty much take the old one out, put the new one in and use all the old connection points. If you have a pool automation system then it can be more complex and may require additional cables/parts to interface to the automation system.
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Old 08-10-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Vegas, baby, Vegas!
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The Pentair 011018 IntelliFlo Variable Speed High Performance Pool Pump is $870 online
I assume there gonna tack a $250 install fee on that, so you pay $870 'after' rebate

Jonathan
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I paid $150 for NPS to install my variable-speed pump. This was probably 8+ years ago.

I don't think $150 was too much to pay. Having a plumber do it would have costed more. There is 220V electrical to hook up (he installed a new piece of conduit), plus he had to fabricate a couple fittings to make the pump fit (no unions in my plumbing). He was probably on site for at least an hour, since he had to wait for the glue to so he could pressure test the whole thing.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I paid $150 for NPS to install my variable-speed pump. This was probably 8+ years ago.

I don't think $150 was too much to pay. Having a plumber do it would have costed more. There is 220V electrical to hook up (he installed a new piece of conduit), plus he had to fabricate a couple fittings to make the pump fit (no unions in my plumbing). He was probably on site for at least an hour, since he had to wait for the glue to so he could pressure test the whole thing.
$150 is the going rate to install a pump including parts and labor. Pump also needs to be calibrated and paper work filled out so the rebates can be claimed by the installing company.
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I installed one for some friends last summer, bought it out of Phoenix and paid something around 450 for it, that included shipping.
If you can install it yourself, you will save way more than the rebate you would get back from NV Energy.

It was not a Pentair brand, it was a Hayward and as far as reliability, its holding up great.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Summerlin South
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NV energy rebate was built into the retail price for a Pentair multi-speed pump. That was about one year ago for a previous house and the same policy this year on my new home.
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