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Sorry, gang, but when I read the article that Dave posted, all I could think about when they complained about funding problems were the following two related articles:
Yeah the boat cops seem pretty silly too. I gave up driving motor boats over it. Sold it all, and I was a kid clamming as a wee lad out in boats my father trusted me to take alone pre 10 years old even.
I refuse to pay or display a coast guard sticker on my sailing canoe, so i go where no power boats can go. There is just no way I am going to put plastic stickers on a 1917 wooden canoe, with a wooden mast, and wooden steering wheel.
I sold a French and Indian War gun boat over the same reason. A sailing row boat with a friggin cannon mounted in the bow.
The Govt is way out of hand as I see things.
The NF has a parking permit FEE and for it all I see is more trash.
If dui is working so well, why then do I see beer containers all over the road side? Used to be legal to drive and have a beer between your knees here, you just better not be drunk. There was less trash then.
Most people have no idea how 'To Go' in the woods either. It don't take that much work to create a small pit where bacteria will eat the mess. But Oh no, people just tuck in behind a tree if you get it that lucky, and leave a mess on the ground. Half the time that mess is dead center on a trail.
One water source after another is ruined for this very reason. Just nasty.
Sorry, gang, but when I read the article that Dave posted, all I could think about when they complained about funding problems were the following two related articles:
I will post a picture of Silver Lake State Park in Hollis one of these summer weekends. It is a filthy scummy place, especially when crowded and littered on summer weekends although the police and park personnel are kept busy.
I will post a picture of Silver Lake State Park in Hollis one of these summer weekends. It is a filthy scummy place, especially when crowded and littered on summer weekends although the police and park personnel are kept busy.
Even in the 70s Silver Lake didn't have a good rep among locals. It was always considered to be filthy. I read somewhere that they had cleaned it up a bit decades later, but it seems to have gone back downhill again.
Londonderry has a trash pick up service and a special pay per throw for stuff that won't fit into a garbage can. Most of the latter stuff is recycled, metal and electronics, so why do they charge? I am just glad I don't have to make a "dump run" every Saturday. The line would be two miles long.
BTW - I think the way NH funds the State Park system is simply appalling. The system brings in a lot of visitors but will soon drive them away because of locked gates and unlimited trash. I and a few friends wanted to drive up to the top of Miller park one day. The clerk at the gate asked for $30. We just said we don’t want to drive up for that much. The park is priced out of site. Haven’t they done a price/usage study so they can maximize revenue? Or set prices like $10 per car instead of $5 per person.
NH State parks are just another example of the penny wise pound foolish nature of New Hampshire’s skinflint government. Remember the cheapskates always spend more.
It's a case of "What is seen & what is not seen" meets "Tragedy of the commons." That trick never works.
OK, so a lot of people donated land to preserve it after they were gone. Call me simple folk, but I still don't see or believe the government conspiracy. I'm totally OK with someone donating their land to a trust for a cancer survivors park if that's what they want to do. One thing I will say, however, from reading the linked articles is that I do not believe in eminent domain, and I will defend my land to the death Charlton Heston-style if any govt tries to take it from me.
The best thing I've learned from researching and reading the articles was the meaning of "ad hominem". I had to look it up - now I know. I have no knowledge of the author to call him wacko other than the article he wrote that I thought was wacko. I judged the wacko-ness based on the article, not the person. Is that ad hominem?
I guess I should have said "that article appears to be wacko", not "I believe the guy who wrote those articles is quite a wack-job - a conspiracy theory kind of guy". My apologies, but I still believe the whole spin-off of this thread on state parks is wacko
Calling the other fellow names or otherwise attacking the person rather than the arguments is an argument ad hominem. My expectation of your intelligence is reinforced by your willingness to read -- and reread -- and to look it up.
Those who donate land to the government for any ostensible reason have many purposes, the least of which is charitable. Selflessness is a fantasy. Government acquisition & ownership of land becomes a mismanagement at the expense of taxpayers. As such it is a fundamental violation of property rights -- as is eminent domain, a major Constitutional mistake -- and should be repudiated whenever it happens.
Also, you might want to look into "What is seen..." (Bastiat) and "Tragedy of the Commons" (Hardin). They're libertarian foundation principles.
As for spinning off this thread, the very point originally made is a demonstration of the folly of government ownership and management of land. It is an elaboration of the original point of this thread and explains the problem. Lora's article summarizes the point and the problem.
The folly of government managment of land, including Parks, is created when the populus have been brainwashed into thinking the management is free and they do not have to pay any taxes to support the places. Parks are common ground and common ground requires common support.
I can only imagine what private ownership would do to a place like Acadia National Park. There would be obnoxious signs and noisy rides all over instead of the peace on Cadillac Mountian at sunrise on a winter day. Private ownership has its place like a steel mill or mine but the parks are not suitable.
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