Free Ward Bird (Meredith, Ossipee, Tamworth: for sale, homes, buyer)

[nicolem]

Sounds good Mac-I hope to see you around there.

I agree with you Mac-this is wrong on so many levels. Not only from the level of gun rights and the right to defend ones property but on the level of taking the word of a convicted criminal and animal abuser over the word of a decent and honorable man who has touched the lives of many in the lakes region in a very positive way.

I have heard that Ward is putting in the paper work for the pardon. From how I understand it, he needs the governor and executive council to approve the pardon. That is why we need to keep emailing and calling all of them-to let them know we will not go away until Ward receives a full pardon.


As an aside and I know this won't help Ward, I believe Rep Betsey Patten is going to introduce a bill to strengthen the rights of citizens to defend their property. I have not read it yet-just heard about it. Hopefully it is a good bill and it passes.

[Mac_Muz]

My wife suggested these gatherings might best be held on Robin Gordons lawn. I wonder how she would like that? Robin can demand all she wants that everyone leave and when no one does i wonder what she can do about it? Move into the public right of way, based on the center line of the road and loiter?

It seems to me public servants that do these things should by law have to forever more wear a scarlet letter.

The peoples answer should be to demand the Castle Law.

Criminals as this one and worse need to be taught a lesson about what is and what isn't Freedom.

IMO Robin Gordon is a criminal as well. Abuse of system.

I am no lawyer, much more a hick, but at least i either know what is fair, or can discover it. This isn't by a long shot.

I am a bit angery since I had a near to like surgery and so in part feel this guys pain.

If we meet I will be armed, I always am. I have the permit, but you won't be able to tell I am.

This is nothing'special I will do just because, it is my day to day standard.

Saying so in order that you have choices if you do spot me. In my own way I hope every single person i see is as armed.

As see things a Armed Society is a Polite Society. I didn't make that phrase up, but I wish I did.

[Mac_Muz]

Originally Posted by NHForester

He will never own another firearm again unless the governor pardons him. If he only commutes the sentence (not that he has shown any willingness to do either) he will always be a felon.

One bright spot is that the board of corrections allowed him to be transferred from the state prison to the county jail.

There is a process for expunging certain felonies from your record in order to regain rights such as firearm ownership and voting, etc. Problem is, since this was a firearms conviction, he is out of luck in that regard. Only a pardon can right the wrong that was done to him.

This expunging is expensive. My so-called offence still shows up because i refuse to pay any thing for this expunging. The last time re-newed my permit the Chief asked waving the papers with other names next to mine. Evidently he wasn't supposed to show me these papers, but he did.

I gave up a big grin and mentioned the DA now serving time by name, telling of where he is. The Chief claimed to have never heard the names of a officer in Wolfoboro.

So I live with some numbers on a paper somewhere next to my name, but i am not felon. I would like the record to be dropped but I won't pay that much to have it done.

In the link I see Mr. Ward has been refused his reading glasses, which are not even prescription. That the state must first test his eyes before he can have his own blasted reading glasses to just see to read and function. I wonder what that's all about?

I find that upsetting. What does the state need to not allow a man to have his bloomin eye glass for anyway? Maybe Mr. Ward has death ray eyes eh? Oh no doubt he could stab somebody with his $3.00 reading glasses, if he could just get by the pain in his chest for the doing.

I don't understand why he needs to spend the next 2 minutes in any jail or prison. What happened to him could happen to any one of us.

I have yet to write any elite since my temper is flared. I don't want to harm a man I never met.

Maybe NH needs a new motto, Slave life away and then Die....... poor

[NHForester]

You're absolutely right, Mac, it is a crazy system to be sure.

The Governor needs to do the right thing.

[Aptor hours]

You guys need to learn that if you are going to be jumping around with a gun you need to learn that you don't have to always brandish it. I don't feel bad for you guys Mac Muz you have and offense as well...why am I not surprised...good luck next time

[Mac_Muz]

yeah getting framed for doing nothing is an offence.
Your public servant that framed me is doing hard time and I didn't spend a seconds time behind a bar. He has passed a rather lot of years behind bars since that fraudulent case was in around 97', but multi felony charges for child molestation take a fair time to pay the debt.

I know I need to explain this, but Not Guilty means I was a free man, but with the law as it is you still keep the record guilty or not. Your husband might tell you about that.

[Aptor hours]

Originally Posted by Mac_Muz

yeah getting framed for doing nothing is an offence.

Your public servant that framed me is doing hard time and I didn't spend a seconds time behind a bar. He has passed a rather lot of years behind bars since that fraudulent case was in around 97', but multi felony charges for child molestation take a fair time to pay the debt.

I know I need to explain this, but Not Guilty means I was a free man, but with the law as it is you still keep the record guilty or not. Your husband might tell you about that.

I don't think Ward Bird should be freed.

[Mac_Muz]

Maybe I should come to your place un-invited and make a royal pain of myself and not leave when asked, and see what you can do about huh? When finally your husband comes with a gun in his holster still refuse to leave. What then? How long will it take the cops to come?

Then as the cops come leave but complain your husband brandished his gun even if he didn't. He will be where Mr. Bird is now. Then what.

If this were to happen to your husband and more so if he had stitches from a recent arorta surgery i would be protesting on his behalf as well.

Did you even read any of the link?

[Aptor hours]

Originally Posted by Mac_Muz

Maybe I should come to your place un-invited and make a royal pain of myself and not leave when asked, and see what you can do about huh? When finally your husband comes with a gun in his holster still refuse to leave. What then? How long will it take the cops to come?

Then as the cops come leave but complain your husband brandished his gun even if he didn't. He will be where Mr. Bird is now. Then what.

If this were to happen to your husband and more so if he had stitches from a recent arorta surgery i would be protesting on his behalf as well.

Did you even read any of the link?

I read several different accounts of the incident. If I had an unwanted visitor that was unarmed I would simply call the police....that just seems so very simple to me. I especially think if Mr. Bird just had arorta surgery he shoudn't be jaunting about with a gun....dial 911 and a person with a gun will arrive and this crisis would be over.

Clearly Mr. Bird was very irresponsible with his second ammendment rights and he broke the law. It would appear that "not all gun owners are nuts but most nuts are gun owners". I guess that holds true in this case.

[Mac_Muz]

I don't see how you can see it that way. According to the articals he never stepped off his porch In NH you may open carry, while with that said i don't think he had or was wearing a holster.

Certainly he could not be jaunting around with stitches on his chest and probably on his aorta, and would be unfit to do anything stress related.

I believe as the artical says the woman was unaware of any weapon untill he checked it before re-entering his house.

I feel that with your sence of predjuiced for firearms in general that your points of view are jaded and your choices of wording is cheap. I find that dialing 911 to get a person with a gun is hypocritical at best. I know out right that if such a call is made you will be told the cops are not your personal body guards.

And last cops are none to fast out here in these woods and you know it. What does your town have 3 cops total if that many?

If i were to live by your code of rules 1 bad guy would be alive, I, my ex, and my son would be dead.

Bird had no idea who he was dealing with or who may have been with the tresspasser. Evidently he was posted, not that that matters any to you, the tresspasser, the cops, or even the LAW.

Contray to your world there is a lot of crime and criminal even in NH, and this is not the land of milk and honey. With the more out of staters coming here they also bring more crime with them.

This criminal woman who was arrested and convicted in NH for animal cruelty and again in SC, evading NH law, has no rights to be on Mr. Birds land for any reason not even a lie.

I really hope you never are attacked because if it should occur, you are going to be SOL. Your whole life will change if you live. That dainty dog wearing a tirrarea how ever you spell that, isn't going to phase a bad guy a bit.

I know the elitist type as you are, and are one of them, and feel above the law being ever so priviledged. I have labored for these kinds of people all my life. Some of them I refused to deal with at all due to arrogance, but I just assume they found someone else with like skills to mine.

Mr.Bird is a stand up pillar to the comminuty and that much shows clearly.

His trailer trash antagonist as that is what she is, wasted the tax payers monies and the abused the system of Justice and when this ends I hope she and Robin Gordon serve some hard time too, plus Mr. Bird sues both of them. The trailer trash won't pay since trailer trash has nothing, but that might not be the case for Ms Gordon.

I hope the People are heard and the demand for a pardon ring the bells of Liberty not to mention Lynch.