is there any conservative places in NH (military, moving to)

[GregW]

New Hampshire has not turned blue yet but many of my friends and I are working on it. There is much more to politics than no taxes and leave me alone. That leads only to subsidizing the financiers and the people that have already made their fortunes. Besides the state tried it with Carig Benson who started looting the state like he looted the investors in Cabletron. Now we have a governor that pays attention to what will make New Hampshire better for everyone.

[remember-voltaire]

greg

why would you want the govt telling you how to live, give you all these rules because they think they know better, pay more for social programmes, pay more taxes, etc etc surely you wouldn't want NH to be turned into another massachusetts

NH isn't perfect but it's much better than massachusetts, california RI,

[GregW]

Because I do not have an independent fortune I have had employers telling me what to do most of my life. At least they pay for the privilege. I do not see a more "blue" NH telling me what to do any more than it does now. The state does not tell me how to live but my condo board and town government certainly do. With crowding comes restriction. I just want the restrictions to make more sense and the taxation to be used for more beneficial uses like education and road repairs.

[remember-voltaire]

thanks for that answer greg

just wondered that's all.

I've lived around the world and in different places in america, I decided to look into what I would vote for when I became american and the more I looked into a party what I thought I had in common with the more I knew I never agreed with that party. I never wanted to cast my vote on ignorance as I have kids and a future but as some would say well I've always voted for that party though the people what say that when questioned on their beliefs have no idea what they have just voted for yet they have no problem moaning about the situation thay have helped to create.

I mean I never understood why some would want bigger govt, pay more taxes, have the state or places sanctuaries for illegals, give welfare to those who don't want to work , be told that I have to wear a seat belt, helmet etc, have tax money to pay for signs in different languages when that money from my property taxes would go to the road outside my house, or have more stuff in schools for my kids, where certain officials don't want jessica's law as it infringes on the rights of the child molestor, where in cases criminals have more rights than the victims., be told that I have no right to know if my daughter has an abortion or have no idea that she is given birth control, not allowed to vote on issues which enough votes had been collected for to have the question put on the ballot etc etc etc

I was very liberal before I had kids, bought my house etc and it just seems ironic to me how much I look at things differently now I'm older and have to pay my way through life.
When I have talked to people from mass but now live in rockingham county where it's turned more republican then it seems there are many folks like myself and family who are the same

still everyone to their own and that's what makes america great and I'm saying this as someone who became american by choice through immigration the legal way

[MamaBee]

I'm very discouraged. I was of the understanding that NH is the last bastion of freedom in the northeast. Unfortunately, activists everywhere are trying to use the government to reach their goals. What happened to "live and let live". The less the government is involved in my life the better. It seems like NH will be just like the rest of the northeast in a few years...just about the time that I was hoping to move

Voltaire, have you heard the saying "a conservative is a liberal who grew up"?

[remember-voltaire]

no I haven't until now but thank you for that

I never cared when I was younger but as soon as I worked , got a house, got married had kids my views really did change,
I really do now understand the older folk when they talk about this.

move to NH as we are, it is the last bastion of new england which doesn't have the nanny feel to it

[unknown stuntman]

The problem in NH I believe to some extent is the confusion some obviously are having discerning what is libertarian and what is libertine philosophy. Hence the division with the current Bush administration has pitted most self-proclaimed "liberatrians" on the same side of the fence as the liberal voices. Groups such as the Free Staters have excellent intentions on many fronts when it comes to nanny laws and the blatant disregard by politicians as it pertains to in particular, to our shrinking Constitutional rights under the second and fourth amendments. However much confusion and misunderstanding of the Patriot Act and so-called Constituionalists that support jokesters like Ron Paul have helped sway the political landscape in NH I believe. Less government is terrific and should always be the goal in this great country of our's. But that doesn't mean a form of collectivism is booted out the door, otherwise what you are left with is simple anarchy.

[irontank]

Originally Posted by unknown stuntman

The problem in NH I believe to some extent is the confusion some obviously are having discerning what is libertarian and what is libertine philosophy. Hence the division with the current Bush administration has pitted most self-proclaimed "liberatrians" on the same side of the fence as the liberal voices. Groups such as the Free Staters have excellent intentions on many fronts when it comes to nanny laws and the blatant disregard by politicians as it pertains to in particular, to our shrinking Constitutional rights under the second and fourth amendments. However much confusion and misunderstanding of the Patriot Act and so-called Constituionalists that support jokesters like Ron Paul have helped sway the political landscape in NH I believe. Less government is terrific and should always be the goal in this great country of our's. But that doesn't mean a form of collectivism is booted out the door, otherwise what you are left with is simple anarchy.

US...I support Ron Paul because I am a Constitutional conservative. Never have voted for a Democrat and now that it has become a party that celebrates outright socialism...I don't see that I will ever vote Democrat.'

That being said...remember, every Congressman...every President...everyone entering the military takes a sacred oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. Not an oath to defend the American flag...the American people...or American soil...the Constitution...that is it.

So...I will never vote for someone running for President if they're not prepared to abide by that oath.

Knowing what the Constitution does and does not authorize the federal government to do is not complicated...as much as federal government lawyers and federal judges have tried to convince the people that you need to be a "Constitutional scholar" to understand the Constitution...its actually very clear and straightforward.

Read Article I, Section 8

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

It lays out all the powers of Congress...if its not in there...Congress cannot do it.

As the "Father of the Constitution" James Madison wrote in Federalist 45:

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negociation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will for the most part be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people; and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.

Most, if not all of the PATRIOT Act is unconstitutional because Congress simply does not have the authority under Article I, Section 8 to enact domestic security measures...or to create new federal crimes beyond the few set out in the Constitution.

Furthermore...any Presidential candidate who is not advocating abolishing whole Cabinet departments like the Department of Education and the Federal Reserve (as only Ron Paul is doing) has either not spent the 5 minutes it takes to review federal powers under the Constitution...or they simply don't care what the Constitution has to say on the limits of federal powers.

Its not Ron Paul that is the joke...the real joke is the other candidates talking about their reverence for the Constitution

[MamaBee]

Originally Posted by irontank

US...I support Ron Paul because I am a Constitutional conservative. Never have voted for a Democrat and now that it has become a party that celebrates outright socialism...I don't see that I will ever vote Democrat.'

Furthermore...any Presidential candidate who is not advocating abolishing whole Cabinet departments like the Department of Education and the Federal Reserve (as only Ron Paul is doing) has either not spent the 5 minutes it takes to review federal powers under the Constitution...or they simply don't care what the Constitution has to say on the limits of federal powers.

Its not Ron Paul that is the joke...the real joke is the other candidates talking about their reverence for the Constitution

I completely agree. Republicans and Democrats alike are responsible for the fall of this country into the abyss of socialism. The keep us fighting with each other so we won't notice the erosion of our liberties. This is why I support Ron Paul; he's not about left or right...he's about the American People. I don't want the left or right imposing their values on me through the government...this is what I thought New Hampshire was about.

[remember-voltaire]

I'm on the understanding about ron paul but I could be wrong though my wife says I'm always wrong, ARF what does she know right EEK EEK EEK
prays that she doesn't see this post


aye but in these times of of threat ron paul wants to get rid of the FBI, CIA and very other govt agency etc. he gets in power then we truely are done

in these times we need intel and we certainly won't get it if he does away with them also ron paul seems to forget that we did get attacked before 9/11 a few times