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Old 05-02-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: In the middle of nowhere with nothing
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Default Unfortunate circumstances and situation of Manchester, NH

It's really a shame because this city had so much potential with the airport and verizon center and multitude of restaurants but now look at what it has become, an embarrassment to the granite state which has caused many people to look or live elsewhere and i don't blame them.It is not getting better and seems to be in a current state of steady decay.So many drug problems, apathetic attitudes,terrible roads and welfare babies.
I know there are worse places to live but for the cost of living you can do much better.Not sure if Nashua or Concord is a much better.
I believe drugs,alcohol and addiction to be a major cause of why Manchester is like it is and I do feel sorry for the good citizens who actually care and try to be productive and fight what appears to be a losing battle.

So, if you have a family and are thinking about moving there think twice and make sure you spend some time there to make sure it is what you are looking for.Dig a little deep,it is a critical decision for the future of your kids if you intend to put them through the public school system.I really tried to like this city but everytime i go there i get a sinking feeling and feel like i made a wrong turn.Don't know what people see in it.I guess its never to late to turn things around but didn't they already try that?

As for the political reasons of why it is like that,that is a different discussion.
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:13 PM
 
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Manchester has some great newer restaurants and I've seen a marked improvement in the past few years...at least along Elm street and the like- a lot more younger professional folk around too.
While I'll admit it's probably the "roughest" city in NH; it's still not a dangerous city by any means compared to others nationally.

In short, I disagree with you and would encourage folks looking for more urban-ish living in NH to at least check it out.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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Personally, I like Manchester and try to get there several times each month. It is far from the 'dead and going nowhere' downtown that it was even 6 or 7 years ago. The downtown area is bustling on nice weeknights, and I'm seeing a nice mix of professionals entertaining clients, families strolling and getting a Ben & Jerry's cone, and the 20-something crowd a bit later heading to one of the (many) night spots to see a band. Outdoor seating at many of the restaurants, most of which are independently owned (few chains--yay!). The Verizon Center and The Palace Theater, all attract a mix of people depending on what show is playing, and The Currier Museum is great too. I do wish that the downtown merchants would get a clue from Nashua, who had several festivals, etc. throughout the year which attracts both townspeople and visitors from other places. Occasionally I've been asked if I could spare a few bucks from someone who looks down and out--nothing I wouldn't expect to come across in a city. I've seldom, if ever, felt unsafe downtown, but yes, there are neighborhoods that I won't venture into after dark on my own. There are some neighborhoods in Concord, Nashua and Rochester that I also would avoid after dark. Pretty much common sense.

Drug and alcohol addiction play a major role, and in a state like NH, the only places that have resources (clinics, shelters, public transportation) for these people is the cities. This is neither good, not bad. It just is.

I do agree that Manchester schools can be a challenge, and close personal friends of mine (who love their home, loves their neighborhood) is torn between selling/moving to a 'better' district or paying for private school due to drugs, fighting, etc. And I've been hearing about this for a couple of years, starting in middle school. Unfortunately, teachers are powerless against these young thugs, and over the years, kids have been taught that defending themselves against bullies will get them into just as much trouble (or more!) than the punks who started the problem. This problem is in no way confined to Manchester, and is a growing problem nationwide. The wussification of American Youth.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Central NH
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I'm often amused at some of the threads and post about the dark and dangerous cities or sections of cities in NH. I'm just a simple country boy, born and raised in the hills of central NH and avoid the southern section of NH (aka northern mass). Though in a different time of my life I lived in some BIG cities (LA, San Diego, Denver, Savannah) and I guess that put things in perspective for me. The issues the OP had with Manchester are more of a national problem, society in general.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Central NH
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I do agree that Manchester schools can be a challenge, and close personal friends of mine (who love their home, loves their neighborhood) is torn between selling/moving to a 'better' district or paying for private school due to drugs, fighting, etc. And I've been hearing about this for a couple of years, starting in middle school. Unfortunately, teachers are powerless against these young thugs, and over the years, kids have been taught that defending themselves against bullies will get them into just as much trouble (or more!) than the punks who started the problem. This problem is in no way confined to Manchester, and is a growing problem nationwide. The wussification of American Youth.
Valerie, your right again.

Things were much different when teachers and parents were allowed to practice stricter discipline and bullies were dealt with on the playground after school.

Time to kick some a$$ America!
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I good friend of mine lives in West Manchester near the Catholic Hospital and has never mentioned having any problems with drugs or crime.
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Old 05-03-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: In the middle of nowhere with nothing
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If you look at the youth in the city in general, would you be proud to say they were yours?Don't get me wrong, all cities have their share of drugs and crime and the economy does hurt inner city people more acutely because of concentrated areas of poverty.However, it is not called "manchvegas" for nothing.And I just read that NH students carry the highest debt load in the country.

There are political reasons why this city continues in it's destructive cycle.Some things are improving in the infrastructure while others are getting worse but more to the latter.

If you live in your own little bubble in the city and rarely get out to see the big picture you may think everything is status quo but like they say the more things change the more they stay the same.In this case it will get worse before it gets better,if it does.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Manchester has been called manchvegas for a long time...like the 70 s. When did this wrong turn come?
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:33 PM
 
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Manchester has been called manchvegas for a long time...like the 70 s. When did this wrong turn come?
I believe Manchvegas originated to make fun of some of the neon signs along Elm street...and stuck (or potentially some back-room gambling). Not because of any connection to more questionable activities (drugs, prostitution, etc).
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I like Manchester.
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