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Old 10-28-2011, 09:59 PM
 
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Default Is Anti-Americanism prominent in NH?

Not stirring the pot, so no sarcastic or mean-spirited answers please; it's a legitimate question. Sounds like I may have a job offer in NH and I was curious if secession movements are popular in that area of the country. Or is it Vermont that's more into that kinda thing?

I'm actually pretty progressive myself, but I generally like being around people who are proud of their community and country.

Thanks!
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Exeter, NH
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Why are secession movements "anti-American"? I am VERY proud of the America of the Founding Fathers, before our nation and economy were ruined by Big Government in collusion with Big Business.

But I would certainly LOVE for a state, or a part of a state, to be set aside with the idea of low government interference, self determination, minimal "services," public education going back to the (low cost) basics, etc. NOTE HERE: the southern half of NH is NOT THAT PLACE in any way, shape or form.

I'd happily "opt out" of all the false promises of government, but nothing is optional in our "free" nation. We earn money, and politicians decide how to spend half of it. That's free? That's slavery.

I'm searching for a place to move to (if I don't go bankrupt paying $13,000 a year in property taxes), where I can at least minimize the level of government micro-management in my life. But finding even a small break from government is difficult. Alaska seems to be the closest--but you have to suffer an almost unsurvivable climate, depression if you are season-sensitive, and very high cost of living to simply transport supplies up there. If we ever get out of the wage-slave lifestyle we seem to be perpetually locked into (thanks to the housing and stock market collapses), and zero interest rates for decades combined with dollar devaluation of our savings, maybe a nomadic existence. Anything that frees us from 80 hour weeks at hellishly miserable jobs would be an improvement.

I think it is horrible that in a place as large as America, there is no place you can go where the federal level doesn't massively tax your income and require you to contribute 15.3% of every dollar you ever earn to a doomed Ponzi Scam "retirement" program, and where ALL the states impose taxes close to 10% of the average income.

It's starting to look like you need to leave the nation to get a decent job or have any future, or to retire before dollar devaluation wipes out your life savings. Is it "anti-American" to want to change America back to when it was free, prosperous, and had a functional economy, and jobs? Is it "anti-American" to want to bring America back to her founding ideals?
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:26 PM
 
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Peculiar question to ask, not sure where you even got that idea? Maybe you're confusing it with Alaska (5000 miles away), or Texas ie. "Republic of Texas" (at least 2000 miles away). Never heard of anything in this corner of the USA (Vermont included).

There are many things to inquire about in regards to a NH move, that would not be very high on my list.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:20 PM
 
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Sounds like I may have a job offer in NH and I was curious if secession movements are popular in that area of the country. Or is it Vermont that's more into that kinda thing?

I'm actually pretty progressive myself, but I generally like being around people who are proud of their community and country.

The state does not have a large secessionist movement, nor does it have a large militia movement - should you also care to know that latter piece of data which seems a possible criteria that also might interest you.

Though it has people that fit into the secessionist camp, it's not likely anywhere enough people that it would be a deal-breaker on your potential moving plans.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:46 PM
 
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Never heard of anything in this corner of the USA (Vermont included).
Second Vermont Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There's a lot of newspaper articles on the aforementioned secession group which one can web search. It gets renewed media interest, for whatever reason, every few years. The Vermont movement seems to go in cycles, but it's a very small movement like most of the numerous secession movements in the U.S. are.

Killington, Vermont secession movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This one is unique in that it's not advocating secession out of the country, but to be part of its neighboring state (NH).


Here's one on the west coast that has been around for a long time: Cascadia (independence movement) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Republic of Cascadia
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:40 AM
 
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Joseph Smith was born in Vermont if that helps.
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Old 10-29-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: The Shire !
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As a "Progressive" you would be better off in Massachusetts.

As noted, the entire town of Killington, Vt would join with New Hampshire if it had it's way.

As far as N.H. goes the secessionist movement here seems to have abated in recent years but the subject comes up in discussions on various forums from time to time.

If the DemoRats and RepubliCraps continue their course of destruction I have the opinion the secessionist movement will become viable.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Not stirring the pot, so no sarcastic or mean-spirited answers please; it's a legitimate question. Sounds like I may have a job offer in NH and I was curious if secession movements are popular in that area of the country. Or is it Vermont that's more into that kinda thing?

I'm actually pretty progressive myself, but I generally like being around people who are proud of their community and country.

Thanks!
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Just my opinion....

I think the secession movement is mostly tied to Vermont, Wisconsin, Arizona, and perhaps a few other states. Let's not even talk about California.
As an avid New Hampshire supporter, I am proud of my community and country.
Perhaps where it gets a little sticky is the socialist attitudes of surrounding states and the federal government.
For the most part, here in NH you can do almost whatever you want (legally, that is), and most people respect that (except for the MA transplants).

I think this is one of the best states in the union, and am proud to live here.
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Old 10-29-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NH
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I moved to NH from NY and find many folks around here to be very proud Americans. There were even some of them in NY though too.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Southern NH
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Let's not forget the very serious movement for Northern states to join Canada!

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