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Old 12-26-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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I can because the answer isn't Trump, just common sense
I know. It's just that .... that pun was irresistible.

 
Old 12-26-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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What do the courts say?


"The Supreme Court has ruled that public schools may not sponsor religious practices (Engel v. Vitale, 1962; Abington v. Schempp, 1963) but may teach about religion. While it has made no definitive ruling on religious holidays in the schools, the Supreme Court has let stand a lower federal court decision stating that recognition of holidays may be constitutional if the purpose is to provide secular instruction about religious traditions rather than to promote the particular religion involved (Florey v. Sioux Falls School District, 8th Cir., 1980)."


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Old 12-26-2015, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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What do the courts say?


"The Supreme Court has ruled that public schools may not sponsor religious practices (Engel v. Vitale, 1962; Abington v. Schempp, 1963) but may teach about religion. While it has made no definitive ruling on religious holidays in the schools, the Supreme Court has let stand a lower federal court decision stating that recognition of holidays may be constitutional if the purpose is to provide secular instruction about religious traditions rather than to promote the particular religion involved (Florey v. Sioux Falls School District, 8th Cir., 1980)."


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Nice try.. but again.. we are not discussing teaching religion but the use of a public board for a Christmas event and what we are discussing falls under this.. I even made it bold to help you out , no thanks necessary


Board of Education of Westside Community Schools v.
Mergens By and Through Mergens
No. 88-1597
Argued Jan. 9, 1990
Decided June 4, 1990
496 U.S. 226
Syllabus
Westside High School, a public secondary school that receives federal financial assistance, permits its students to join, on a voluntary basis, a number of recognized groups and clubs, all of which meet after school hours on school premises. Citing the Establishment Clause and a School Board policy requiring clubs to have faculty sponsorship, petitioner school officials denied the request of respondent Mergens for permission to form a Christian club that would have the same privileges and meet on the same terms and conditions as other Westside student groups, except that it would have no faculty sponsor. After the Board voted to uphold the denial, respondents, current and former Westside students, brought suit seeking declaratory and injunctive relief. They alleged, inter alia, that the refusal to permit the proposed club to meet at Westside violated the Equal Access Act, which prohibits public secondary schools that receive federal assistance and that maintain a "limited open forum" from denying "equal access" to students who wish to meet within the forum on the basis of the "religious, political, philosophical, or other content" of the speech at such meetings. In reversing the District Court's entry of judgment for petitioners, the Court of Appeals held that the Act applied to forbid discrimination against respondents' proposed club on the basis of its religious content, and that the Act did not violate the Establishment Clause.
 
Old 12-26-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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Trump 2016...Be there or be no where!!!
 
Old 12-26-2015, 04:05 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Nice try.. but again.. we are not discussing teaching religion but the use of a public board for a Christmas event and what we are discussing falls under this.. I even made it bold to help you out , no thanks necessary


Board of Education of Westside Community Schools v.
Mergens By and Through Mergens
No. 88-1597
Argued Jan. 9, 1990
Decided June 4, 1990
496 U.S. 226
Syllabus
Westside High School, a public secondary school that receives federal financial assistance, permits its students to join, on a voluntary basis, a number of recognized groups and clubs, all of which meet after school hours on school premises. Citing the Establishment Clause and a School Board policy requiring clubs to have faculty sponsorship, petitioner school officials denied the request of respondent Mergens for permission to form a Christian club that would have the same privileges and meet on the same terms and conditions as other Westside student groups, except that it would have no faculty sponsor. After the Board voted to uphold the denial, respondents, current and former Westside students, brought suit seeking declaratory and injunctive relief. They alleged, inter alia, that the refusal to permit the proposed club to meet at Westside violated the Equal Access Act, which prohibits public secondary schools that receive federal assistance and that maintain a "limited open forum" from denying "equal access" to students who wish to meet within the forum on the basis of the "religious, political, philosophical, or other content" of the speech at such meetings. In reversing the District Court's entry of judgment for petitioners, the Court of Appeals held that the Act applied to forbid discrimination against respondents' proposed club on the basis of its religious content, and that the Act did not violate the Establishment Clause.
Yes. Now can you all let the thread die? Now that you, theoretically, understand the issue?
 
Old 12-26-2015, 04:56 PM
 
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Yes. Now can you all let the thread die? Now that you, theoretically, understand the issue?


Thank you for ending the thread.
It has been beaten to death.
Christmas is over.
Next year another similar thread can be started.
Well done.
 
Old 12-28-2015, 04:28 AM
Yac
 
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Since it seems this thread became more a trolling and Trump boosting fest than an on topic discussion, I'm closing it.
Closed.
Yac.
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