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Old 12-06-2015, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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OP is still quite young - according to previous posts is a few months away from graduating college. He/she has not yet had his job outsourced, or been forced to train foreigners on a HB-1 visa to do his job. He hasn't seen the difficulty an American tradesman goes through to make a living at his trade due to undercutting from illegals. He hasn't seen once robust manufacturing jobs that allowed a person to earn a decent income disappear and leave nothing but empty factories behind.

There are way too many people making the same amount of money in their paycheck that they did years ago, and finding it does not go far enough to cover these days higher living expenses. They make too much to qualify for any government help, but still live paycheck to paycheck. Often those that do receive aid seem to be doing better than them. Politicians who have promised to protect the middle class have done exactly what their donors want - provide more cheap labor for them and to heck with the average working American.

A successful businessman in office is exactly what we need right now. There's a reason why so many of Trump's supporters are blue/pink collar types. They have been the ones most hurt by decisions made by politicians who cater only to their donors agenda.

 
Old 12-06-2015, 07:05 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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President Obama has not been a good President. His policies have abandoned free market principles in favor of big government, his foreign policy has been one of leading from behind, and his executive orders are unconstitutional. But I am not going to question his character.

Donald Trump has been been an advocate for bigger government to an extent Barack Obama wouldn't even think of. Donald Trump is even more anti-capitalism than Barack Obama. Donald Trump has mocked the disabled, attacked veterans, lashed out against hispanics, made stereotypical remarks about Jews, made inappropriate remarks towards catholics, and now he wants us to track innocent muslims.



The Republican Party has some great candidates this year. Senator Marco Rubio represents a new generation of leaders who are eager to not only reverse Barack Obama's policies, but to implement policies to help restore the American dream. Governor John Kasich is a unifying figure who can unite the country, he has a proven record of balancing budgets and cutting taxes. Governor Jeb Bush is a Washington outsider who has experience in business and as one of the best conservative Governors in the last two decades, he has a great grasp of the issues and would change the status-quo. Senator Rand Paul is a constitutional conservative who believes in what the founder's believed in: a smaller federal government and more state responsibility. Carly Fiorina is a serious leader who understands our economy, budgets, and our world. These are great candidates who believe in free markets and a strong national defense, anyone of them would change the status-quo in Washington D.C.
Please, are you serious? The party has proven to us they can't be trusted. I love Ron paul, Rand will have to do. You sound like you work for the party, every repub I know thinks there all rhino's.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 07:06 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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So You are a paid troll to push the soft rinos..ok I get it now
I guess i should have read this before I responded. Guess we're on the same page.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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OP is still quite young - according to previous posts is a few months away from graduating college. He/she has not yet had his job outsourced, or been forced to train foreigners on a HB-1 visa to do his job. He hasn't seen the difficulty an American tradesman goes through to make a living at his trade due to undercutting from illegals. He hasn't seen once robust manufacturing jobs that allowed a person to earn a decent income disappear and leave nothing but empty factories behind.

There are way too many people making the same amount of money in their paycheck that they did years ago, and finding it does not go far enough to cover these days higher living expenses. They make too much to qualify for any government help, but still live paycheck to paycheck. Often those that do receive aid seem to be doing better than them. Politicians who have promised to protect the middle class have done exactly what their donors want - provide more cheap labor for them and to heck with the average working American.

A successful businessman in office is exactly what we need right now. There's a reason why so many of Trump's supporters are blue/pink collar types. They have been the ones most hurt by decisions made by politicians who cater only to their donors agenda.
Yep, As bad as the dem's are, repub's are no friend of even upper middle class. The money has won the day, until we get it out of the process, the story is over.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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So You are a paid troll to push the soft rinos..ok I get it now
All of the folks I mentioned are conservatives.

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Ironically, the one I expected him to push, given his account name, he didn't mention.
Chris Christie is a moderate, he's been a mediocre Governor of New Jersey. But he's still far better than Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

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OP is still quite young - according to previous posts is a few months away from graduating college. He/she has not yet had his job outsourced, or been forced to train foreigners on a HB-1 visa to do his job. He hasn't seen the difficulty an American tradesman goes through to make a living at his trade due to undercutting from illegals. He hasn't seen once robust manufacturing jobs that allowed a person to earn a decent income disappear and leave nothing but empty factories behind.

There are way too many people making the same amount of money in their paycheck that they did years ago, and finding it does not go far enough to cover these days higher living expenses. They make too much to qualify for any government help, but still live paycheck to paycheck. Often those that do receive aid seem to be doing better than them. Politicians who have promised to protect the middle class have done exactly what their donors want - provide more cheap labor for them and to heck with the average working American.

A successful businessman in office is exactly what we need right now. There's a reason why so many of Trump's supporters are blue/pink collar types. They have been the ones most hurt by decisions made by politicians who cater only to their donors agenda.
I'm happy to have a discussion on these issues with you. First of all, as it relates to free trade, this is another area where Donald Trump is wrong and most Republicans and even some Democrats such as Bill Clinton have been right. Free trade has led to more competition and various consumer goods are affordable as a result. Additionally, jobs related to exports actually pay an average of 15% more than in other sectors. Finally, there are estimates that anywhere from 80,000 to 500,000 manufacturing jobs are unfilled in the United States. Today's young workers are being pressured to go into jobs that require more than a high school degree, and technology today has made it so the skills older workers have are outdated.

Now, the problem is that yes, millions of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and struggling. Incomes aren't rising anymore. This is because we have economic policies in place that hurt workers and discourage economic activity. We have a 35% corporate tax rate, the highest in the industrialized world. This hurts the broader economy and rather than lower that tax rate, the federal government hands out subsidies to corporations who donate money to politicians. You also have high health care costs because we have little competition in the marketplace, Obamacare has made that worse while also causing companies to cut back hours because of the employer mandate that gives no relief in terms of cost to companies. Over $80 billion in new economic regulations since 2009 has also had an impact on our economy. Companies pay what workers are willing to accept and today, as job growth is stagnant, workers are forced to accept lower wages. If we were to reduce taxes and regulations, repeal Obamacare, and continue to support free trade, you'd see much faster job growth and wage increases.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 08:27 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Right, and your precious party has proven,over and over that they are part of the problem. The party is more important than the country. You choose the party, I'll take the country, that's all. Don't worry about NH, we'll be fine without your input.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Donald Trump is a socialist, a statist, a sexist, a racist, not very smart, and a liar. Yet he leads all of the polls in New Hampshire. Why?
That is because his BS quotient is lower than any in recent political memory. And.....many of us a tired and fed up with political BS.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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Right, and your precious party has proven,over and over that they are part of the problem. The party is more important than the country. You choose the party, I'll take the country, that's all. Don't worry about NH, we'll be fine without your input.
I always put my country before my party. This nation has to come together to solve our problems. Hillary Clinton said that the enemy she is proudest of is Republicans. Donald Trump insults Women, the disabled, Hispanics, Muslims, Jews, Veterans, and Catholics. Neither of them possesses an ability to unify the country behind a positive, optimistic agenda. The people I mentioned have fought for conservative principles, but have also sought to reach out to Democrats in the interest of good public policy.

As far as the New Hampshire primary, I know this: the people of New Hampshire take the responsibility of having the first primary very seriously. I have tremendous respect for the people of New Hampshire. My question is not for the purpose of attacking the primary electorate, it is wondering the mindset of why Donald Trump is leading there. You answered my question and I appreciate that, but I don't agree with your assessment of Trump as a candidate.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Ok, Thank you.
 
Old 12-06-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: MA
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Donald Trump is a socialist, a statist, a sexist, a racist, not very smart, and a liar. Yet he leads all of the polls in New Hampshire. Why?



He gives people something to hate such as Muslims and immigrants. Having something to hate is very important for many people or at least having a scapegoat to blame things on and that is what Trump does.
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