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Old 06-04-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Last fall I shopped for a house in both northern MA and southern NH. I found that the price differential was such that a $600k house in NH would cost $700k in MA. That $100k difference works out to about $4000 more per year in mortgage payments. Property tax was 600 x 2% = $12000 in NH and 700 x 1.2% = $8400 in MA., so it's about a wash. Since I work in MA, income taxes are the same.

I decided to buy in New Hampshire, because I liked it better up there. Then in December, the Congress screwed me over by putting a cap of $10,000 on combined state and local taxes. I won't be able to deduct any of my state income tax, and not even my entire property tax.
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:28 PM
 
Location: WMU D1, NH
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I decided to buy in New Hampshire, because I liked it better up there. Then in December, the Congress screwed me over by putting a cap of $10,000 on combined state and local taxes. I won't be able to deduct any of my state income tax, and not even my entire property tax.
I don't know if that is being screwed over or if it's just the federal government saying taxpayers across the country aren't going to pay for people to live in high tax states.
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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Are you kidding? You must be. Have you compared taxes for comparable properties, not just as a percentage of sales price?
DARN RIGht!

My daughter lived in a beautiful new house on 2 acres with a wonderful view in NH. No water or sewer fees. No rubbish fees or trash bags fees etc. etc.
I live on in a little 50s ranch on less than 1/2 acre and my property taxes are almost double hers. And I pay for water and rubbish fees and trash bag fee etc etc etc. all in taxachusetts.
We are looking to move to NH because I am very tired of Ma nanny state laws about everything as well as high tax rate. Ive looked at properties in NH and what I get for my money in N?h is so much more than Ma.

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Old 06-04-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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Also some things are priceless, as sometimes it can feel like crossing from West Germany into East Germany.
Seriously I drove down 93 yesterday admiring the lupines and wildflowers they planted all along the highway, the instant i crossed into Massachusetts I was greeted with poorly paved roads, lack of road striping, litter literally everywhere and just chaos. That's just a very obvious but everyday example.
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Old 06-04-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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DARN RIGht!

My daughter lived in a beautiful new house on 2 acres with a wonderful view in NH. No water or sewer fees. No rubbish fees or trash bags fees etc. etc.
I live on in a little 50s ranch on less than 1/2 acre and my property taxes are almost double hers. And I pay for water and rubbish fees and trash bag fee etc etc etc. all in taxachusetts.
We are looking to move to NH because I am very tired of Ma nanny state laws about everything as well as high tax rate. Ive looked at properties in NH and what I get for my money in N?h is so much more than Ma.
Massachusetts has bloated state and local governments compared to New Hampshire but the scary part is many people in Massachusetts believe the government bloat is actually necessary. Score 1 point for brainwashing.
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:18 PM
 
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Massachusetts has bloated state and local governments compared to New Hampshire but the scary part is many people in Massachusetts believe the government bloat is actually necessary. Score 1 point for brainwashing.
So true. So many people believe in more govt the better. More everything must be great!
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Yea, MA has bloated thing like decent regional libraries and public transit. Oh yea, a booming economy too.

Their bloated schools are widely considered to be the best in the nation. How do NH public schools rank? (How will they rank if our gov gets his pet bill through for private school tuition assistance?)
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Old 06-04-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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I don't know if that is being screwed over or if it's just the federal government saying taxpayers across the country aren't going to pay for people to live in high tax states.
But, but, but isn't NH a low tax state??
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Old 06-05-2018, 04:54 AM
 
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Yea, MA has bloated thing like decent regional libraries and public transit. Oh yea, a booming economy too.

Their bloated schools are widely considered to be the best in the nation. How do NH public schools rank? (How will they rank if our gov gets his pet bill through for private school tuition assistance?)
Really? Where? There isnt any public transit where I live and thats only 30 mi outside Boston. If you are thinking of the T you still have to get there. Regional libraries? Where is one? I have a little town library. And their bloated schools are bloated and its not unusual to spend big tax dollars on football fields etc. the schools get 80% of the tax dollar and the 20% is spread between all the rest of the departments. Guess what happens when the rest of the departsments are scambling for the same little bit of money?
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Old 06-05-2018, 07:18 AM
 
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DARN RIGht!

My daughter lived in a beautiful new house on 2 acres with a wonderful view in NH. No water or sewer fees. No rubbish fees or trash bags fees etc. etc.
I live on in a little 50s ranch on less than 1/2 acre and my property taxes are almost double hers. And I pay for water and rubbish fees and trash bag fee etc etc etc. all in taxachusetts.
We are looking to move to NH because I am very tired of Ma nanny state laws about everything as well as high tax rate. Ive looked at properties in NH and what I get for my money in N?h is so much more than Ma.

But this is really a town vs. town thing, not a state vs. state issue. Everyone has to look at their own financial situation and compare specific properties to figure out which location is best for them. (And of course there are some non-financial considerations.)

I live in NH in a rural town and have well and septic, but many in town have both water and sewer fees. We all have trash bag fees as well as transfer station sticker fees, as well as property taxes (in excess of $31 per $1000.) Our vehicle registration fees are not called "excise taxes," as you mentioned in another post, but we paid close to $1000 to the town/state this year in annual registration fees for two cars - one older, one newer.
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