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Old 05-12-2019, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Meredith NH
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Why should the penalty for murdering a police officer be worse than murdering someone else? Why is one life, according to NH's death penalty statute, given more value than another?
Very good point.....a roofer or electrician that was killed on the job has as much value to his family as a police officer,I'm in favor of the death penalty for especially heinous crimes........but equally.No life is worth more than another based on that persons job description
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Old 05-23-2019, 03:34 PM
 
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The right to life folks won out.

All life is precious. Civilized society won out.

John Sununu lost out on this one. Time for a new governor that reflects the will of the people.
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Old 05-27-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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John Sununu lost out on this one. Time for a new governor that reflects the will of the people.
It's a little late for that; John left office in 1989.


Personally, I like how veto overrides work out in New Hampshire. If something is important enough, they can usually find sufficient votes to override the governor. If not, the veto stands.


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Why should the penalty for murdering a police officer be worse than murdering someone else? Why is one life, according to NH's death penalty statute, given more value than another?
It's not about the value of the life, it's about killing an officer of the law in performance of his duties, like taking revenge on a judge or shooting a cop in the head because you don't want to go back to jail:
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New Hampshire’s death penalty applies in only seven scenarios: the killing of an on-duty law enforcement officer or judge, murder for hire, murder during a 1) rape, 2) certain drug offenses, 3) or home invasion; and murder by someone already serving a life sentence without parole. The state hasn’t executed anyone since 1939, and the repeal bill would not apply retroactively to Michael Addison, who killed Manchester Officer Michael Briggs and is the state’s only inmate on death row.
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Old 05-31-2019, 05:16 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Why should the penalty for murdering a police officer be worse than murdering someone else? Why is one life, according to NH's death penalty statute, given more value than another?
Because police officers are peacekeepers and their job is to enforce our laws. They did not sign up for combat duty. Just like the death penalty is intended to additionally help deter people from killing another human being, murdering police officers who are there when we call 9-1-1 for help in all dire situations, including armed robberies or domestic disputes where there is an active shooter, the police should have an extra measure of protection, where the shooter should think very hard about shooting at a police officer who is only there to remedy the situation.

It's akin to the outrage when UN peacekeepers and aid workers are murdered in countries where they are neutral in the conflict and only trying to help those in need. And yes, I know that we have a few bad cops in our country, but IMO the vast majority of them are fine.

Anyway, there should always be extra penalties for murdering and assaulting any of our first responders.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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The right to life folks won out.

All life is precious. Civilized society won out.

John Sununu lost out on this one. Time for a new governor that reflects the will of the people.
He does reflect the will of the people. New Hampshire is a purple state. We may have elected a democrat legislature but we also elected a republican governor in the same election, to help curb the more extreme tendencies of the democrats. This democratic state congress has been particularly aggressive in it's agenda and I'm glad we have someone to serve as a check on them.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Because police officers are peacekeepers and their job is to enforce our laws. They did not sign up for combat duty. Just like the death penalty is intended to additionally help deter people from killing another human being, murdering police officers who are there when we call 9-1-1 for help in all dire situations, including armed robberies or domestic disputes where there is an active shooter, the police should have an extra measure of protection, where the shooter should think very hard about shooting at a police officer who is only there to remedy the situation.

It's akin to the outrage when UN peacekeepers and aid workers are murdered in countries where they are neutral in the conflict and only trying to help those in need. And yes, I know that we have a few bad cops in our country, but IMO the vast majority of them are fine.

Anyway, there should always be extra penalties for murdering and assaulting any of our first responders.
No, there shouldn't An officers life should neither be under nor overvalued. And in fact they did indeed sign up for "combat" duty by deciding to wear that uniform. It may suck but it goes with the job. Much respect to the majority of them for they handle it with honor.
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Old 06-02-2019, 02:27 PM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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No, there shouldn't An officers life should neither be under nor overvalued. And in fact they did indeed sign up for "combat" duty by deciding to wear that uniform. It may suck but it goes with the job. Much respect to the majority of them for they handle it with honor.
Wrong. Police work is not the same as being active duty in the military during times of war. Maybe it feels that way in Chicago, in the ghetto neighborhoods, but in Northwood... it should be closer to to the Mayberry RFD tv show.

When a police officer feels that their job is "combat duty", that's when they are quicker with an armed response, and noen of us want that sort of attitude being normal and coming from our police force.
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Old 06-02-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Wrong. Police work is not the same as being active duty in the military during times of war. Maybe it feels that way in Chicago, in the ghetto neighborhoods, but in Northwood... it should be closer to to the Mayberry RFD tv show.

When a police officer feels that their job is "combat duty", that's when they are quicker with an armed response, and noen of us want that sort of attitude being normal and coming from our police force.
You are thinking of a NH that is long gone even in Northwood, Mt Vernon, Winchester etc . A cop who thinks he is Sheriff Taylor to the good folks of Mayberry is going to end up being a dead cop. A good example of that is Michael Briggs. Nice guy, gave the thug a break once.. died for it in the end.
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Old 06-02-2019, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The right to life folks won out.

All life is precious. Civilized society won out.

John Sununu lost out on this one. Time for a new governor that reflects the will of the people.
The same right to life people that want to slaughter unborn children? You are confused my friend. Right to life ends when you take another's life during a crime, it's not revenge it is justice..unlike the murder of your child for your stupidity.
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Central, NH
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If I don’t trust the government to run healthcare or spend my taxes wisely, I damn well am not going to trust it to get the death penalty correct in every instance.
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