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You guys make it up in all the other taxes/fees you have but its never brought up, and people moving there might not understand or realize that.
Oh that's not true. Have you missed all the posts about car registration? Have you missed many of the posts about heating styles? I know you haven't because you've posted on them. And besides, anyone with a brain can realize that you have to have SOME income to run a state so there are bound to be fees and costs on things. Nothing that NH does is unique to NH as far as fees, I've seen it many other places. Just because you didn't encounter them in FL doesn't mean that no other states are like that. However, NH tries very hard to not overtax and overspend like many states. They try to run on a shoe-string budget and much of what taxes there are stay local - which is very different from a lot of other states (my current one in particular).
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All thats preached is "no sales tax, no income tax" Big whoop.
sorry, while that is mentioned I think what is 'preached' is how beautiful it is - especially north of Concord. And it is.
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HUGE influxes of people coming down to Fla, and out to Cali, and Arizona NM
and you don't think retirement and wanting warmer places might have something to do with it? Most people, when they retire, don't want to go some place cold (unless it was home). Granted not all people moving are retirees, but there's getting more and more as the baby boomers are graying! Also, there's more available in those states because they're bigger, and there's more amenities - for those who want to be in more crowded areas.
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They're looking for cheaper living and livable weather.. It seems to be completely not talked about on these boards and it really should be.
Funny, I remember reading a lot of posts discussing how many snowstorms this year, and how cold some of the record cold snaps were. And I believe I have frequently mentioned the snow goes in 'belts' with some places (like Keene) getting more than other places (like seacoast).
You know, if FL is so wonderful, why on earth did you ever leave it in the first place, and why does anyone else ever leave it?! Variety is there for just that reason: you can have the hot, sticky, 1-season cheaper state, and I'll take NH even if I do dislike the cold (I'll cope).
The North East is VERY expensive to live in.. If it wasn't we wouldn't have HUGE influxes of people coming down to Fla, and out to Cali, and Arizona NM etc... They're looking for cheaper living and livable weather..
I have lived in UT, IN, IL, TX, NJ and NH, and by far NH has one of the lower cost of living compared to the other states, maybe TX would be lesser... And there is NO WAY people would be moving to Cali for cheaper living by any stretch of imagination, "livable weather" maybe, its all relative
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but there are days where you are completely trapped in the house sometimes for weeks.
Don't know which Keene you are referring to, I did not miss a single day from work last year because of any snow/weather/being trapped in the house sometimes for weeks related issue... neither did any of my co-workers who drive to work not only from Keene and surrounding towns, but also from 2 neighboring states
Thank you Buck. My husband and I are teachers, and 60K is the salary he will make. I also teach but am home right now with our three kids. Thank you also for your info on heating. We have a relative in SE NH who said he pays about $2000 a year for a 2000 sq ft house. I figure that into our monthly estimates so to hear you pay $1000 is great. Teachers also get a little raise each year so 60K is not forever but there will not be any huge raises...ever. We hope to buy a newer house after renting and make sure it is insulated well.
Someone who prefers Fla over NH would probably not consider NH a great place to live. I've known people who moved to NH from Fla and went running back after their first NH winter.
I also know people (many more) who left NH for Fla and couldn't wait to get back. After spending the winter in Fla many missed even the cold over the subtle seasons land of Fla. Many of those that truly don't care for the cold winters now take the option of renting in Fla for 2 or 3 months one of the numerous vacancies available which is far cheaper than owning and return to the beauty of NH spring, summer and fall.
I can't take it anymore. I will try not to make this a personal attack, but if I am banned for life, than so be it.
A certain person railed at the horribleness of Florida for many months, complete with many pictures of Florida bugs. Day after day. On and on.
This person went up to New Hampshire and deemed it a horrible place to live. This person said that her husband, a Naples dispatcher, made $90,000 a year. I see that this person has since downgraded that to $70,000 something. Sorry. Even with unlimited overtime, it is not possible. I have a sister-in-law in Fort Myers that was a police dispatcher for many years, and with unlimited overtime, the most she could have hoped to make was about $35,000.
Southwest Florida has a horrible educational system, unfriendly people, huge traffic jams, unbearable heat, few job that do not pay a living wage, prices that are still through the roof, although they have come down quite a bit.
Do you know why New England is expensive? Because it has fantastic schools, forthright people whose word is their bond, unparalleled food, beautiful scenery, and historical buildings that the locals deem worth saving because they believe in their heritage.
I would take an entire brutal winter in New England over that brutal southwest Florida heat. Indeed, Floridians can be trapped in their homes from May to September.
It doesn't surprise me that a native Floridian would hate New England. I am a born and bred New Englander. When I moved to Florida, I was mortified. The shallowness of the people was astounding. There was a home that had been the rare historical property. There were so few left. The local politicians agreed to bulldoze. Everything was for a quick buck. So unlike New England, which has always been about preservation.
New England is old money, where you keep it under a floor board, Florida was new money, where you refinanced your home to buy a Hummer. New Englanders would shudder. Clearly, the subprime and HELOC mess shows that ostentatiousness does not pay.
Drugs were rampant throughout the area. I'm not saying that New England doesn't have drugs, but this is on a monumental scale. It is not in just the bad areas. The elderly lady next to you in your "nice" community could be a drug dealer. I saw that so many times.
Developments were approved, no matter what. To heck with the protected panther. Local politicians found a way to approve it. In the end, it was Florida's demise. Greed took over the area and it was their undoing.
To the person that mentioned high insurance costs, you are so right. Insurance companies deal in numbers and profit. Florida was high risk and the rates reflect that. No amount of whining will change that. Insurance companies are not paying out huge amounts of money for a blizzard.
And besides, blizzards are fun. You have a blizzard party. Hurricanes are not fun. I went through Charley and I can attest to that. No one was partying.
Finally, the educational system is deplorable. A certain person recently said that New Hampshire has a horrible educational system. Fortunately someone called that person on that.
Check a native New Englander's punctuation and grammar. Check the Floridian's. Enough said.
I moved to Florida from Massachusetts. I lived there for nine years. It was the worst nine years of my life. I have lived in Tennessee for three years. It is not my beloved New England, but it is better than Florida, which is a huge strip mall with one palm tree and a drug addict lurking nearby. Hyperbole, I admit, but I could not resist, and when I think of Florida, that is the picture that I conjure up.
Florida. No thank you. Someday I hope to move back to New England, but it is too expensive. Yes, you get what you pay for.
And "hello" to my New England friends. Eat a clam fritter for me.
I can't take it anymore. I will try not to make this a personal attack, but if I am banned for life, than so be it.
A certain person railed at the horribleness of Florida for many months, complete with many pictures of Florida bugs. Day after day. On and on.
This person went up to New Hampshire and deemed it a horrible place to live. This person said that her husband, a Naples dispatcher, made $90,000 a year. I see that this person has since downgraded that to $70,000 something. Sorry. Even with unlimited overtime, it is not possible. I have a sister-in-law in Fort Myers that was a police dispatcher for many years, and with unlimited overtime, the most she could have hoped to make was about $35,000.
Southwest Florida has a horrible educational system, unfriendly people, huge traffic jams, unbearable heat, few job that do not pay a living wage, prices that are still through the roof, although they have come down quite a bit.
Do you know why New England is expensive? Because it has fantastic schools, forthright people whose word is their bond, unparalleled food, beautiful scenery, and historical buildings that the locals deem worth saving because they believe in their heritage.
I would take an entire brutal winter in New England over that brutal southwest Florida heat. Indeed, Floridians can be trapped in their homes from May to September.
It doesn't surprise me that a native Floridian would hate New England. I am a born and bred New Englander. When I moved to Florida, I was mortified. The shallowness of the people was astounding. There was a home that had been the rare historical property. There were so few left. The local politicians agreed to bulldoze. Everything was for a quick buck. So unlike New England, which has always been about preservation.
New England is old money, where you keep it under a floor board, Florida was new money, where you refinanced your home to buy a Hummer. New Englanders would shudder. Clearly, the subprime and HELOC mess shows that ostentatiousness does not pay.
Drugs were rampant throughout the area. I'm not saying that New England doesn't have drugs, but this is on a monumental scale. It is not in just the bad areas. The elderly lady next to you in your "nice" community could be a drug dealer. I saw that so many times.
Developments were approved, no matter what. To heck with the protected panther. Local politicians found a way to approve it. In the end, it was Florida's demise. Greed took over the area and it was their undoing.
To the person that mentioned high insurance costs, you are so right. Insurance companies deal in numbers and profit. Florida was high risk and the rates reflect that. No amount of whining will change that. Insurance companies are not paying out huge amounts of money for a blizzard.
And besides, blizzards are fun. You have a blizzard party. Hurricanes are not fun. I went through Charley and I can attest to that. No one was partying.
Finally, the educational system is deplorable. A certain person recently said that New Hampshire has a horrible educational system. Fortunately someone called that person on that.
Check a native New Englander's punctuation and grammar. Check the Floridian's. Enough said.
I moved to Florida from Massachusetts. I lived there for nine years. It was the worst nine years of my life. I have lived in Tennessee for three years. It is not my beloved New England, but it is better than Florida, which is a huge strip mall with one palm tree and a drug addict lurking nearby. Hyperbole, I admit, but I could not resist, and when I think of Florida, that is the picture that I conjure up.
Florida. No thank you. Someday I hope to move back to New England, but it is too expensive. Yes, you get what you pay for.
And "hello" to my New England friends. Eat a clam fritter for me.
Welcome to the NH board hiknapster-don't know if you have posted here before- I may have missed your earlier posts. Feel free to stick around and post some more-
Sorry folks, I am going to close this thread. This has turned into a personal bashing of NH by someone and not sticking to the real point of this thread. If you all want to start another one of the cost of living and keep it to that subject, and not why you hate NH, then go ahead. Thanks all.
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